Remington 700 or savage 10
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Aprilia Man
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Canadian "WET" Coast (Raincouver)
Personally I would save up a few more pennies and go straight to Tikka. Skip Remington and Savage, the quality coming out of there these days is junk.
Besides being higher quality, Tikka's have a good track record for being good shooters out of the box, and the aftermarket support is getting really strong for Tikka, so you can dress up a Tikka as you evolve with the sport. It's a good base to build off of and adapt with you, with high enough quality that you won't want to sell it later like you would a Savage or Remington.
Another bonus is pre-fit shouldered barrels are becoming more popular for Tikka's. They are built to a high enough quality that the headspace is consistent enough for gunsmiths and barrel manufacturers to offer shouldered prefits. You don't get that with Savage or Remington.
Besides being higher quality, Tikka's have a good track record for being good shooters out of the box, and the aftermarket support is getting really strong for Tikka, so you can dress up a Tikka as you evolve with the sport. It's a good base to build off of and adapt with you, with high enough quality that you won't want to sell it later like you would a Savage or Remington.
Another bonus is pre-fit shouldered barrels are becoming more popular for Tikka's. They are built to a high enough quality that the headspace is consistent enough for gunsmiths and barrel manufacturers to offer shouldered prefits. You don't get that with Savage or Remington.
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Whats your budget? I have both savage and remington. I like the aftermarket support for the 700 but i like my savages for the ability to change barrels, bolt handles, etc at home.
Oh and I would never buy another remington 700. I would buy another savage though, strictly to build off.
Oh and I would never buy another remington 700. I would buy another savage though, strictly to build off.
- Location
- Near Edmonton, AB
https://www.rdsc.ca/remington-700-p...5r-hammer-forged-threaded-barrel-308-win.html
This. The best 700 in current production. I have one and couldn't be happier with it. 5R barrel, 1:10 twist, 40XP trigger, fluted and threaded barrel. Weighs heavier than advertised though, mine came in at 8 lbs even, not 7.5 lbs. Ironically, mine prefers 155 gr Matchkings over the 175s. I haven't had much time to mess around with loads for it though.
This. The best 700 in current production. I have one and couldn't be happier with it. 5R barrel, 1:10 twist, 40XP trigger, fluted and threaded barrel. Weighs heavier than advertised though, mine came in at 8 lbs even, not 7.5 lbs. Ironically, mine prefers 155 gr Matchkings over the 175s. I haven't had much time to mess around with loads for it though.
walleyed99
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- I'm not telling, Sask
I have a a Savage 10Tr in 308 and a Remington 700 AAC SD in 6.5. Had the savage 10tr for 5 or so years and it will shoot clover leafs with my hand load 168 grain match kings. Both in is accuatick and the Cadex chassis it sits in now. 700 is in an MDT LSS, to be as light as possible but in a chassis. Still working on a load. Savage was more accurate with factory ammo thus far.
redshooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Central Ontario
You'll get a Savage for the least amount of cash. Savage you can be your own gunsmith, Remington has more stuff. Both can shoot really well out of the box with handloads. Tikka's are nice, and used isn't something to be afraid of, BUT, round count on something like a 6.5 CM IS an issue. If you did go used just be aware you could end up with something that looks mint, but has the throat of an old logger that smoked Export A unfiltered since he was 4...
In a 20” configuration the Remington 5R Mil Spec or LTR would be my first choice....both have HS Precision stocks (but different versions), and should shoot as good as anything else.
Tikka is nice but the plastic stock needs to go right off the hop, so bigger budget required and they don’t shoot any better than the M700....nice slick action though.
Savage...not even on my radar.
Tikka is nice but the plastic stock needs to go right off the hop, so bigger budget required and they don’t shoot any better than the M700....nice slick action though.
Savage...not even on my radar.
And with all the great quality options today that have a plethora of OEM and aftermarket support, I don't see any reason to go with a mass produced action that has little to no aftermarket support. There's no real compelling reason to shoe-horn yourself into a corner with an action that has little aftermarket support in today's renaissance age of precision rifles.
Unless you have zero intentions of ever upgrading or evolving your rifle, and are happy with it's OEM configuration. In that case, if it ticks all the boxes for you then absolutely go ahead and buy it and rock on.
The support for the 783 right now is rather underwhelming...to put it mildly.
Of course a good gunsmith could always fill in and re-inlet a fiberglass stock so that it fits the r783, if one was so inclined and wanted to pay the money to do so. That opens up a lot of options for traditional stocks. Still doesn't change the chassis market unfortunately, and I agree - the chassis currently available for the r783 are less then desirable. I think most manufacturers see the R783 as more of a budget rifle, with people not wanting to spend big $ to upgrade it - probably why MDT has inlets in 783 for their cheaper Oryx chassis but not their premium chassis'.
Perhaps more options will become available in the future, but I doubt most manufacturers see the benefit. They are mostly focused on where the market is - R700, Tikka's, Bergaras, Howas, etc.
I think it would be silly to buy an action in the hopes of the aftermarket support growing stronger, when you could pick an alternative quality action that already has great aftermarket support.
I would chose the Savage in single shot. More bedding area and a 3rd action screw can be added.
Or, buy a used target rifle built on a match quality receiver. A very good target rifle can be had for about $700.
Two of my favourites are the Musgrave (flat bottom receiver for excellent bedding) and the Precision rifle. This is an American made clone of a Remington 40X. Think of a single shot Rem 700 with thicker receiver walls.
I have some I could be talked out of.
Or, buy a used target rifle built on a match quality receiver. A very good target rifle can be had for about $700.
Two of my favourites are the Musgrave (flat bottom receiver for excellent bedding) and the Precision rifle. This is an American made clone of a Remington 40X. Think of a single shot Rem 700 with thicker receiver walls.
I have some I could be talked out of.
I prefer Savage over Remington. As others have said, with Savage, if you are mechanically inclined, you can do a lot of work on the gun yourself, like barrel swaps, bolt handles, etc. The aftermarket is not as strong for the Savage, but there are lots of options for a lot of the parts.
I also for the most part dislike Remington as a whole, they seem great at cheaping out on things. I always see people talking about how great the 700 is, but usually 3/4 of their gun is aftermarket. I think their products went down hill fast after the 80’s.
I also for the most part dislike Remington as a whole, they seem great at cheaping out on things. I always see people talking about how great the 700 is, but usually 3/4 of their gun is aftermarket. I think their products went down hill fast after the 80’s.
Another advantage to the Bergara is that it takes R700 triggers. So you have all the best bolt action triggers available if you ever want to upgrade the trigger (along with the stocks/chassis by being a R700 footprint).
The trigger and the stock/chassis are the two components that create the interface between the shooter and the rifle. It's important to optimize that interface to get the most out of the system (shooter & rifle).
