Remington 700 SPS tactical (.223 or 308?)

ukie_10 said:
I am looking at getting either the Remington 700 SPS tactical in .223 or .308, and im not sure wich one would be best... I will mostly be punching holes in paper but I will also use it for some hunting.

Im new when it comes to precision rifles so any help would be appreciated

Any one have recomendations for optics also??

Thanks again guys...and girls!!
Ukie_10

Hi Ukie, I'm also new to precision rifles and just picked up a Rem700 SPS Tactical in .308 (like yourself I considered the .223). I'm only using it on paper targets for now.
I attached a Falcon Menance 4x-14EMD mounted with Leupold QR low mounts on a 20MOA pic rail and Butler Creek covers. I'm very happy with the look and performance of my first precision rifle. Also had a smith attach an oversized bolt handle.
I'll try to add some pics asap. Good luck on your choice!
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If you are doing any hunting that involves buying a license, you MUST go .308. I have an SPS-T in .308. The recoil is not bad at all. I am not a large guy (5,9 180) and you definitely could use it as a hunting rifle.
Optics are all preference. Go as big and bright as you can afford.
 
I started with the .308 sps tac and love it I can hunt bigger game and punch paper with It. I put a falcon 4.5-18 on but the eye relief was crappy for a .308. I switched it up to a nikon 6-18 and love it. I also just bought the sps tac in .223 for coyote hunting. Im going to put the nikon on the .223 and buy a new bushnell 4200 6-24 on the .308. ..flip a coin and buy the one that turns your crank the most. I tried to make the same choice but ended up with both eventually.
 
It's pretty simple. 308 for large game. 223 for small game.
Has anyone been out hunting with the 308 SPS Tac? What's it like to lug around?

What about the Savage Model 10 Precision Carbine?
 
Grizzlypeg said:
So you may reload your 223 with good bullets for $6.00-$8.00 a box and your 308 with good bullets for $11 or more. Not counting the brass.
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Where are you finding good .223 bullets for $6-$8/box?

I'll take 20,000...thanks.

Match grade bullets run about $30-$40/100
I don't buy hunting bullets, but I know good partition bullets run around the same price or more.
 
WHOA!!! First of all I would not get that model it only has a 20inch barrel. It will limit you from the start. There are plenty of other models to choose from. It is a cheap rifle for a reason. And .223 don`t waste your time let our AR`s chew up that ammo:D. 308 is not that expensive to re-load and it is so versatile.
 
dune said:
WHOA!!! First of all I would not get that model it only has a 20inch barrel. It will limit you from the start. There are plenty of other models to choose from. It is a cheap rifle for a reason. And .223 don`t waste your time let our AR`s chew up that ammo:D. 308 is not that expensive to re-load and it is so versatile.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong - or limiting - with a 20" barrel, in fact, shorter barrels tend to be stiffer and can actually be MORE accurate than longer barrels... the 223 round burns much less powder and bullets are cheaper than for .308 When it comes to barrel heating, flinching, and recoil, the 308 shows its shortcomings over the 223.
 
I like both calibers. From my own point of view, you can learn a lot more good habits, a lot more easily, shooting off a bench with a 223 than you can a 308.
A 308 is nice to shoot but as I've been discovering a 223 is a lot nicer. Get one with a fast enough twsit to use the heavier bullets.

Then get a 308 for hunting too.
 
Obtunded said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong - or limiting - with a 20" barrel, in fact, shorter barrels tend to be stiffer and can actually be MORE accurate than longer barrels... the 223 round burns much less powder and bullets are cheaper than for .308 When it comes to barrel heating, flinching, and recoil, the 308 shows its shortcomings over the 223.
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That's right I forgot all the competition shooters out there use
20" barrels, plus the question involved the rifle being used for hunting game. If it is for coyotes only, go with the .223, but if you are going after large game i.e. white tail. You might want to go with the .308. People might question you when you pull out a .223
 
i bought the .223 rem sps tac, hunted groundhogs with it, and it works great, I put a bushnell 3200 elite on it and its a tac driver. I also have a rifle in 308 and for a new guy starting out I prefer the .223. You will not regreat getting the .223
 
i will go with no hesitation for 308win that more versatile compare to 223 you can hunt prairies dogs to elks you can also find ammos at canadian tire 223 is not permit the for hunting lowest is 243(big game)
 
Decisional stress is not good for your health, do like me and get both :

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.308 brass is more readily available.

I see .308 brass all over the place and I'm the first in there to pick it up, to make my shooting experience that much more affordable.

.223 if fine and dany, for AR15's but it's a bit underpowered, for all intents and purposes. I think you'll be disapointed in it in the long run. If you already have reloading equipment, then the answer should be obviously the .308

Go .308 and eat the cost of the ammo difference.
 
I just bought a SPS Tac in .223, it will be excusivly for Ground dogs (& gophers) and coyotes. It is a tac driver (imho), Cheap FMJ ammo groups at an inch at 100y, I'll have to let you know how Noslers are after I work up a load.

I already own remmy 700's in 30-06, 270 and .243 that are more 'suitable' for big game hunting so it really wans't an issue for me.

If I was in your shoes, I'd buy the 308.... Especially if you are planning on hunting larger game (deer sized or bigger)

I am planning on getting a 308 in '10, after christmas, I was thinking about another SPS tac or a VTR (I just love the look of them triangle barrels, and the 700 actions) and I am already set up for 30 cal (bullets and primers) all I really need is brass..... So that will make it a bit easier for me.

As far as it being 'cheaper' to reload for .223 as opposed to 308, it defiantly is! Compare 250 50gr Nosler BT @ $59.90 compared to 100 185gr Berger VLD's @ $79.96. plus less powder, primers are primers and there is very little cost differance there. Just bear in mind that you can still reload 'quality' ammo in 308 for less than factory 'quality' .223 ammo. So what I am saying is, it's cheaper, but not by "that" much.

Have fun with your decision, I would really consider buying both......

Cheers!
 
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