Remington 700 SPS Tactical, got some questions.

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I have been doing a bit of research and a few guys are saying that the out of box stock affects the accuracy so they changed it.

Does anybody own one of these guns, and how good was it out of the box? Im not that experienced with rifles, been mostly a handgun guy. Just made a deal on one of these 700 sps tacticals, and im wondering for me as a newbie, will it do what i want it to do. Im just going to the range and prob shooting, 300 yards max i would guess. Just looking for info, from those that own this gun, how does it shoot? Positives and negatives etc...

Specs;

chambered in .308 win.

20" Varmint/tactical contour heavy barrel
1:10 twist
Hogue pillar bedded stock (black)


Leupold Veri-X III 3.5-10x40mm scope with matte black finish and duplex cross hairs with those Butler Creek "flip-up" lens covers.


Seller says it has already been zeroed at 100 yards. Not sure how zeroed it will be by the time it gets to me going through Canada post lol.

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they are decent shooters out of the box, but youve read correctly the out of box houge stock is a giant POS, its no where near stiff enough for a "precission" rifle, and i hightly recoment u change it as soon as you have the finances to do so, for starting out it will be ok, but even then, it makes proper technique difficult they flex and twist under reacoil and loading the bipod (if you plan to shoot with one) my buddies was so bad then the stock would flex and touch the barrel if the forend was rested on any thing.

out side of that with proper ammo FGMM or handloads they are almost always a sub MOA rifle

also, depending on how much the previous owner used it, the bolt may have a gritty feel to it, thats just the anodized coating on the bolt and nothing to worry about, over time it smooths out, but can then leave the bolt suseptable to surface rust, so a nice thin coat of oil is always a good thing
 
I have one of these with a Bushnell 10x40 scope with mildot reticle. I use 168 gr BTHP and zero at 200 yds. The range I shoot at only goes to 300 yards. I have no problem getting one inch at 100 yards and close to 2 inch at 200 yards. The Hogue stock does touch the barrel on the bipod but it does seem to have an effect. My preferred way of shooting is with the stock across my range bag when I shoot from the bench or prone so weight is spread out and the stock does not touch the barrel. I don't know my group size from the bipod. This is my first rifle with a scope and right now it is factory but one of my reasons for purchasing this rifle is the number of available options to upgrade it. I am looking forward to trying it out at longer ranges.
 
ultimate_monkey said:
they are decent shooters out of the box, but youve read correctly the out of box houge stock is a giant POS, its no where near stiff enough for a "precission" rifle, and i hightly recoment u change it as soon as you have the finances to do so, for starting out it will be ok, but even then, it makes proper technique difficult they flex and twist under reacoil and loading the bipod (if you plan to shoot with one) my buddies was so bad then the stock would flex and touch the barrel if the forend was rested on any thing.

out side of that with proper ammo FGMM or handloads they are almost always a sub MOA rifle

also, depending on how much the previous owner used it, the bolt may have a gritty feel to it, thats just the anodized coating on the bolt and nothing to worry about, over time it smooths out, but can then leave the bolt suseptable to surface rust, so a nice thin coat of oil is always a good thing
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What kind of stock would one upgrade it too? Also the previous owner only shot 40 rounds through it.
 
Mine shot about 1"1/2 group @ 100yds, 4 shots. I had lots of plans for this gun so I changed the stock right away and didn't give the factory stock a good chance. I've got a choate tac stock now and it's heavy as eff. Shoots great. Average group about 3/4 inch, some days better, some days worse. I'd like to try the factory stock again. I like the feel and would make the rifle more practical for hunting. Other than that I think it's a great rifle for the price.
 
The rifle chair at my range is pretty proficient with rifles. Ill give him a jingle when i get the rifle, im sure he can help me out.
 
thats a pretty general question, but it comes down to what kind of money your willing to spend and what you find comfortable in a stock. here's a list of a few examples going from most expensive to least:
-AICS, CADEX STRIKE, XLR, KRG OPS
- Mcmillan, Manners
- HS precision, Bell and Carlson

Take a look and if you get the chance get behind as many as you can to see first hand what fits you better. Congrats on the rifle and welcome to a new addiction.
 
Shabazz said:
thats a pretty general question, but it comes down to what kind of money your willing to spend and what you find comfortable in a stock. here's a list of a few examples going from most expensive to least:
-AICS, CADEX STRIKE, XLR, KRG OPS
- Mcmillan, Manners
- HS precision, Bell and Carlson

Take a look and if you get the chance get behind as many as you can to see first hand what fits you better. Congrats on the rifle and welcome to a new addiction.
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Not only a new addiction but a new science. There is tonne to learn about this stuff, i feel as if my head is going to explode. Im really overwhelmed with all the information.

I need to figure out how to use my scope, adjusted it properly etc... Have only used open sights before. It will be an enjoyable learning curve.

I can see how it can get expensive quick. I see some of the custom stuff being sold on the EE and its way out of my price range.
 
GunGuy34 said:
I need to figure out how to use my scope, adjusted it properly etc... Have only used open sights before. It will be an enjoyable learning curve.

I can see how it can get expensive quick. I see some of the custom stuff being sold on the EE and its way out of my price range.
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scopes are easy, once u have the dioper adjusted (makes the x-hairs super crisp) just aim and shoot, the adjustments are most likely 1/4 MOA , so lets say your hitting 1.5" low, dial up 1.5MOA or 6 clicks, at 100, for 200 would be 3, at 50 would be 12 etc and so on. with a duplex retical you can essentiall only use the exact center to sim with, (with out getting into complicated zeroing at the stadia, then xhairs = 5MOA, lower stadia 10MOA (examples ) but this only works at certain manifications or if your FFP or SFP . so you will need to zero at chosen distance then dial for the other ones. This is where things like MILdots and the horus retical come in handy if you want to just shoot holds

and you right, it can get expensive fast haha, once you start getting into high end glass , like Schmidt & bender, march etc, you can be into a rifle for over 4g with out having any thing but the scope in your hands.. ask how i know hahahah

as far as bipod vs rest/bad the can both be equally as accurate, but have very differnt techniques to master, i personally perfer a bipod, as i find it more versitile then the rest, its on my rifle and stays on there, weather im at the range or feild or hunting so they both have pros and cons, its up to you to shoot both and decide! but thats part of the fun
 
GunGuy34 said:
Not only a new addiction but a new science. There is tonne to learn about this stuff, i feel as if my head is going to explode. Im really overwhelmed with all the information.

I need to figure out how to use my scope, adjusted it properly etc... Have only used open sights before. It will be an enjoyable learning curve.

I can see how it can get expensive quick. I see some of the custom stuff being sold on the EE and its way out of my price range.
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To be honest, I really like the Hogue stock, but there is a reason why!

After seeing how it felt to hold one and shoulder it, I went out and bought one of the full bedding block versions of the stock(like having a sleeper or wolf in sheeps clothing).

It gives outstanding stiffness and rigidity to the rifle and gives me the feel of the stock that I like, as well it doesn't flex a bit with a bipod - fits my frame really good as well.

Hope this helps.

All the best, Carl
 
ultimate_monkey said:
scopes are easy, once u have the dioper adjusted (makes the x-hairs super crisp) just aim and shoot, the adjustments are most likely 1/4 MOA , so lets say your hitting 1.5" low, dial up 1.5MOA or 6 clicks, at 100, for 200 would be 3, at 50 would be 12 etc and so on. with a duplex retical you can essentiall only use the exact center to sim with, (with out getting into complicated zeroing at the stadia, then xhairs = 5MOA, lower stadia 10MOA (examples ) but this only works at certain manifications or if your FFP or SFP . so you will need to zero at chosen distance then dial for the other ones. This is where things like MILdots and the horus retical come in handy if you want to just shoot holds

and you right, it can get expensive fast haha, once you start getting into high end glass , like Schmidt & bender, march etc, you can be into a rifle for over 4g with out having any thing but the scope in your hands.. ask how i know hahahah

as far as bipod vs rest/bad the can both be equally as accurate, but have very differnt techniques to master, i personally perfer a bipod, as i find it more versitile then the rest, its on my rifle and stays on there, weather im at the range or feild or hunting so they both have pros and cons, its up to you to shoot both and decide! but thats part of the fun
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I thought one click was one inch? Man you may as well been talking in Hebrew.
 
nope the "standard is 1 click = 1/4" ( or .25MOA) one MOA for all intents and purpose is 1" at 100yds, 2" at 200, 3" at 300 etc, really its just off like 1.047" but who the hell can shoot withing 47tho of accuracy haha. so your clicks work the same way, one 1/4MOA click will be 1/4" at 100, 1/2" at 200, 3/4" at 300 and so on
 
I have a 700 VTR in .308 and it is in an AICS stock with a Vortex scope. Great fun to shoot and quite accurate. Still playing with it, so no real numbers yet. Same set-up as the picture below. The pic is of my 700 in .223.
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ultimate_monkey said:
nope the "standard is 1 click = 1/4" ( or .25MOA) one MOA for all intents and purpose is 1" at 100yds, 2" at 200, 3" at 300 etc, really its just off like 1.047" but who the hell can shoot withing 47tho of accuracy haha. so your clicks work the same way, one 1/4MOA click will be 1/4" at 100, 1/2" at 200, 3/4" at 300 and so on
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thanks for the info. Good to know. Cant wait to get my hands on the thing and see if i can hit anything with it.
 
npbra said:
I have a 700 VTR in .308 and it is in an AICS stock with a Vortex scope. Great fun to shoot and quite accurate. Still playing with it, so no real numbers yet. Same set-up as the picture below. The pic is of my 700 in .223.
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Cool, how that 629 treating ya these days.
 
Shabazz said:
I suggest you prowl around on youtube there are some excellent videos for beginners covering most of the questions you have at this point.
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Yes i have tagged another thread that a member posts, full of such videos. When i get off work, ill sit down and view some of them. Got to hit the sac now, 0600 comes quick.
 
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