Great, my 11 year old granddson loves shooting it. He's shoot it a lot more than I have.
Remington 700 SPS Tactical, got some questions.
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Great, my 11 year old granddson loves shooting it. He's shoot it a lot more than I have.
I personally like my hogue stock but did find once it was rested on a bipod the stock would touch the barrel, so I bought a used hogue of another CGNer to tamper with and see if I could resolve this problem. It was simple and anyone can do it.
I took a 13/16 socket and wrapped it in sandpaper and opened up the stock a bit more, once it was all back together, back onto the bipod and ran a piece of paper under the barrel.....nothing touched all the way down.
Now to fix the flimsy feel was aslo simple, just bedded it.
So for $20 and a couple hours of my time I fixed it and I am very happy with the final product. I'd say my groups tightened up quite noticeably, it will shoot MOA at 100yrds no problem if I do my part but some days I shoot 2" groups. Before I tinkered with the stock my best group was 1.5" so it did help. Everyone I know shoots 168gr out of theirs.
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I took a 13/16 socket and wrapped it in sandpaper and opened up the stock a bit more, once it was all back together, back onto the bipod and ran a piece of paper under the barrel.....nothing touched all the way down.
Now to fix the flimsy feel was aslo simple, just bedded it.
So for $20 and a couple hours of my time I fixed it and I am very happy with the final product. I'd say my groups tightened up quite noticeably, it will shoot MOA at 100yrds no problem if I do my part but some days I shoot 2" groups. Before I tinkered with the stock my best group was 1.5" so it did help. Everyone I know shoots 168gr out of theirs.
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Composite stocks are at greater risk of flexing than wooden ones. Wood laminate stocks are generally a very safe bet. There a ton of manufactureres that sell great wooden stocks (around $100) that are 95% inletted for your gun, but they need finishing, final inletting. You can have any color or texture, and I have even used automotive paint and clear coat, or you can use somethin9 more "tacticool"
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The Hogue stock is indeed pretty flexible, and if you bear down on it on a bipod or bag it will touch the barrel. Shooting offhand, or resting lightly as you might in a lot of hunting situations, I found it to cause no problems. I've also got one that has the internal bedding block, and it is quite rigid but also quite heavy. You can stiffen up the original stock by glass-bedding a couple of graphite arrow shafts into the forearm. This improves it considerably, for very little money.
Whatever other flaws that stock may have, I have to say that I find it to be just about the most comfortable stock to hold and shoot that I've ever had.
Whatever other flaws that stock may have, I have to say that I find it to be just about the most comfortable stock to hold and shoot that I've ever had.
One thing I will say...
If this rifle is a totally stock Rem 700 SPS Tactical w/blk Hogue stock and/or the barrel wasn't changed, IT DOESN'T HAVE A 1:10 TWIST (unless it states otherwise on the bbl).
The Rem SPS 700 Tactical AAC (threaded bbl, green/gray Hogue) comes with a 1:10" twist barrel, but the standard SPS Tac comes with a 1:12" twist.
Enjoy your new toy though !
If this rifle is a totally stock Rem 700 SPS Tactical w/blk Hogue stock and/or the barrel wasn't changed, IT DOESN'T HAVE A 1:10 TWIST (unless it states otherwise on the bbl).
The Rem SPS 700 Tactical AAC (threaded bbl, green/gray Hogue) comes with a 1:10" twist barrel, but the standard SPS Tac comes with a 1:12" twist.
Enjoy your new toy though !
One thing I will say...
If this rifle is a totally stock Rem 700 SPS Tactical w/blk Hogue stock and/or the barrel wasn't changed, IT DOESN'T HAVE A 1:10 TWIST (unless it states otherwise on the bbl).
The Rem SPS 700 Tactical AAC (threaded bbl, green/gray Hogue) comes with a 1:10" twist barrel, but the standard SPS Tac comes with a 1:12" twist.
Ya i read that too, maybe it was a typo on the sellers part. Its what the add said.
The one i had shot 3/4 at 100... And i didnt do anything to the stck. Just out a millett Mil dot on it and a 6-9" bipod. I found that the stock wasnt as bad as everyoneplays it out to be. But i guess thats just me. I only sold it to fund my .223. So, i say wait, shoot it and she if you like it. I loved the feeling of the stock. Just my .02
Ive had mine about 3 months now, I really didnt mind the stock. However I found an HS Precision on EE that I snapped up, now that I have used the gun with that fitted its a definite upgrade. My suggestion would be to take it to the range a few times and see how it feels to you. They are a great gun right out of the box and the upgrades are always floating around should chose to go down that road.
I looked at the EXACT same gun @ lebarron yesterday... buying one to drop the action into an AX AICS chassis system with a bushnel hdmr tremor 2 reticle.... theres a guy on youtube 8541 tatical or something like that just look for remington 700 vids and youll see him....he tried to do a budget build 700 and he put a bipod on the oem stock and found that as he shot groups from the bipod the weight ont he tip of the stock would cause the free floated barrel to contact the stock.
So when i went into lebarron I figured id check it out. and I found that BRAND NEW, out of the box it was almost contacting th the bottom of the barrel at the end of the stock. With the slightest pressure applied by hand i could get it to contact. The solution would be to remove the stock and grid off some material at the bottom of the barrel recess in the end of the stock. How ever the problem is that the OEM stock is not rigid enough because the pillar beds arn't full length. they dont make the stock more rigid. The pillars are simply 2 metal spacers in the bottom of the stock that the bolts ride through.
My recommendation to anyone buying the system for use with a bipod is Don't. unless you plan to shoot wide groups or change the chassis.
So when i went into lebarron I figured id check it out. and I found that BRAND NEW, out of the box it was almost contacting th the bottom of the barrel at the end of the stock. With the slightest pressure applied by hand i could get it to contact. The solution would be to remove the stock and grid off some material at the bottom of the barrel recess in the end of the stock. How ever the problem is that the OEM stock is not rigid enough because the pillar beds arn't full length. they dont make the stock more rigid. The pillars are simply 2 metal spacers in the bottom of the stock that the bolts ride through.
My recommendation to anyone buying the system for use with a bipod is Don't. unless you plan to shoot wide groups or change the chassis.
Ok well what about just shooting of a sand bag or something?
IMO sandbag would do the same thing af you were loading into the gun. The free float gap parallel to the barrel is generous however, the gap at the bottom is probably JUST wide enough to slide paper in for a free float check. With the end of the stock being all synthetic, and not having any pillars running down it, It does not make the system conducive to accepting much of a weight load without flexing.
IMO again, If I were keeping the stock and trying to make something of the system I would at least go ahead and remove the material that contacts the barrel. The stock just isn't the best out of the box and with the numerous options out there now most just go for the upgrade and get bonuses like adjustable ergos. and rails.
IMO again, If I were keeping the stock and trying to make something of the system I would at least go ahead and remove the material that contacts the barrel. The stock just isn't the best out of the box and with the numerous options out there now most just go for the upgrade and get bonuses like adjustable ergos. and rails.
I bought an SPS Tactical on Thursday. On Friday I mounted the Bushnell 10x40 on Leupold STD bases and rings. I used my dremel to sand down the end of the foreend where it touches the barrel with a bipod.
Mounted my 6" bipod.
I'm new to the precision rifle game. I bought a few different brands, grades and weights of ammo.
Went to the range on Saturday.
Took 6 rounds to get it zeroed at 100m with Winchester superx 180gr.
I then proceeded to shoot 4, 3 shot groups. 2 with Hornady A-Max Match 155gr. And 2 with 168gr.
The best group was 3/4" with 155gr and the worst was 1 1/4" with 168gr.
I have no idea what I'm doing, and I got a 3/4" group on my first outing with this gun.
Needless to say, I'm very pleased with my purchase.
Mounted my 6" bipod.
I'm new to the precision rifle game. I bought a few different brands, grades and weights of ammo.
Went to the range on Saturday.
Took 6 rounds to get it zeroed at 100m with Winchester superx 180gr.
I then proceeded to shoot 4, 3 shot groups. 2 with Hornady A-Max Match 155gr. And 2 with 168gr.
The best group was 3/4" with 155gr and the worst was 1 1/4" with 168gr.
I have no idea what I'm doing, and I got a 3/4" group on my first outing with this gun.
Needless to say, I'm very pleased with my purchase.
Good on ya for sharing your experiences. I'm super glad to hear that some people are getting great results with factory rifles and scopes! Welcome to the accuracy addiction!
cheers,
Barney
Dude im still not sure what yall are talking about, can you take a pic. I havnt recieved my bipod yet, ordering one from Wolverine as I type this.
Given the comments on Hogue stock flex for their Overmolded line, I figured this might help some:
http: // www.getgrip.com/main/overview/overmolded.html
From the Hogue Web Site This is for one of their Overmolded stocks and there is NO flex:
Full Length 7075 Aluminum Bedding Block
For the absolute ultimate in accuracy and stability, Hogue bolt action stocks are optionally available with a precision-machined, full length Bedding Block molded into the stock. This CNC machined, 7075 billet, aircraft aluminum block completely surrounds the rifle action and extends full length into the forend. The full-length block absolutely guarantees the ultimate in accuracy by providing rock-solid stability over the length of the stock. In fact, the Hogue full bed block stock has been independently tested and it was the only stock that retained zero after a 30 foot drop! The full-length bed block coupled with all of our other features make Hogue stocks superior and a much better value than stocks costing hundreds more, in fact Hogue full length bed block stocks are the finest stocks available at any price.
All bolt action stocks feature a sleek straight comb, palm swells and a "varminter" style forend, all treated with our unique "Cobblestone" texture. Models are available for standard or Varmint barrels.
http: // www.getgrip.com/main/overview/overmolded.html
From the Hogue Web Site This is for one of their Overmolded stocks and there is NO flex:
Full Length 7075 Aluminum Bedding Block
For the absolute ultimate in accuracy and stability, Hogue bolt action stocks are optionally available with a precision-machined, full length Bedding Block molded into the stock. This CNC machined, 7075 billet, aircraft aluminum block completely surrounds the rifle action and extends full length into the forend. The full-length block absolutely guarantees the ultimate in accuracy by providing rock-solid stability over the length of the stock. In fact, the Hogue full bed block stock has been independently tested and it was the only stock that retained zero after a 30 foot drop! The full-length bed block coupled with all of our other features make Hogue stocks superior and a much better value than stocks costing hundreds more, in fact Hogue full length bed block stocks are the finest stocks available at any price.
All bolt action stocks feature a sleek straight comb, palm swells and a "varminter" style forend, all treated with our unique "Cobblestone" texture. Models are available for standard or Varmint barrels.
I have one of the aluminum-block Hogues, and it is wonderful. Outstanding ergonomics, at least for me. Quite a bit heavier than the standard version, but totally rigid.
Having said that, I must admit that I have no complaints about the standard model either. Sure, it'll flex enough to touch the barrel if you lean on it, but from hunting positions, with the fore-end lightly touching something for stability, I find it works very well. You can also stiffen it up easily by bedding a couple of graphite arrow shafts into the fore-end...but if you want a benchrest stock, look elsewhere.
Having said that, I must admit that I have no complaints about the standard model either. Sure, it'll flex enough to touch the barrel if you lean on it, but from hunting positions, with the fore-end lightly touching something for stability, I find it works very well. You can also stiffen it up easily by bedding a couple of graphite arrow shafts into the fore-end...but if you want a benchrest stock, look elsewhere.
Any links on people doing this? I am after an SPS too.
