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does anyone have experience with the rem 700ml? I just bought one
and have not fired it yet.It is a camo stalked/stainless barrelled one and is
set up for 209 primers.Although the manual says it can handle 130gr powder
charge I e-mailed Remington directly and they told me it is good for 150gr.
I have shot muzzle loaders before just have'nt had a chance to shoot this one.
 
does anyone have experience with the rem 700ml? I just bought one
and have not fired it yet.It is a camo stalked/stainless barrelled one and is
set up for 209 primers.Although the manual says it can handle 130gr powder
charge I e-mailed Remington directly and they told me it is good for 150gr.
I have shot muzzle loaders before just have'nt had a chance to shoot this one
 
I recently picked one up also. Stainless Camo in 50 cal. I haven't shot mine either and would be interested in any experiences or recommendation the other members may have.
 
Three in our group shot them and tried most of the new and different loads, powders, sabots etc. We all came back using 2x50 gr. pyro pellets, 303 gr Remington or 300 gr. Hornady sabots and 209m primers. We all got hang fires with 777 smokeless. This is our experiences others may share different results. We were told that 90 gr. would give best results, but 100 gr. is easier and cheaper.
 
I've had a stainless one about 6 years (converted to 209 ignition as soon as a kit became available) . Only ran about 200 rounds through it in that time ( only use it for hunting). with pyrodex powder or pellets, it needs a good brushing after about 7 or 8 rounds to stay accurate ( I get 2 inch 3-shot groups at 100 yards with a 9 power scope using 2 50 grain pyrodex pellets and a CCI 209 prirmer with a saboted Remington bullet (can't remember the weight). Tried 150 grains but the groups opened up to 4 inches. recoil is OK especially after I added a Remington R3 pad to it.

Remember when cleaning it to disassemble the bolt assembly and clean that too! I didn't the first year and the following year found out that the striker assembly just inside the front of the bolt body was rusted and seized inside the bolt cavity so I couldn't close the bolt. was a ##### to disassemble with the aid of a a brass hammer at one point and had to clean and polish it for several hours afterwards.
 
Remington had a good thing going with their 700ML. It needed some refinement - but not much (i.e the stock). I wish they didn't discontinue them.
 
Owned 3 - still have 1 in the safe 50 Cal MLS 26" Green Mountian Barrel. Like mentioned they need disassembly of the bolt for a cleaning after each range session(no worry if hunting and only firing a shot or two). The T7 hangfires is in direct relation to the spring in the remington conversion/factory equipped 209 ignition. If you switch it out to a 26lb spring you'll get less hangfires, available through Brownells(at least they used to be!). Or you could buy one like cabela's sells, WS used to stock them a few years ago they come with a 24lb spring/solid 209 nipple(no slots like the remmy) but worked flawless in my 700mls. In my green mountain I bought the 26lb spring from brownells and 209 nipples from cabela's, using the factory 209 firing pin. I have had no hangfires that can be faulted on the ignition system alone since these mods.

As to loads if your wanting to use pellets 2x50's under 240 .431hornady XTP with MMP green(.431) sabot has always shot under 2" at 100 in my 700's. Another 250gr SST and packaged sabot over 2x50's. I shoot loose 95gr of T7 under 240 xtp, 100-110gr under 250gr sst for upto deer. For larger then deer I used 300 or 300gr with short MMP .451 black sabot under 110gr of loose T7 or 120 loose Pyrodex RS. I also had good groups with 300gr SW's or SST with crushed rib high pressures (long) sabots under 100-110 T7 loose. I have tried a ton of others but these ones where always 2" or better shooters in my rems.

BTW I only use Winchester 209W primers, never just popped when in the field and rarily on the range. Also when on the range shooting for groups I swab between each shot with 50% windshield fluid and 50% Isopropyol Alky - damp(to wet and you'll have mis/hangfire problems) patch run down in short strokes to the breech, flip over repeat and then dry patch for 2 passes. I found it helps with reducing fouling, cooling for less sabot deformation due to heat and ulitimately better groups. I always started my hunts on a clean bore as all 3 of my 700's shot bang on with no fouling, without the the swabbing between shots #2 and 3 posed no problems but after that I needed a swab to remain consistent in my rifles. I carried some 50/50 solution pre-soak patches in a snuff can when hunting and some dry patches JIC.(though never needed them:p ) On the breech and nipple I used pink teflon tape, no frozen plugs and less blow back due to a tighter/better seal.

Other then the blow back flaw requiring the bolt disassembly the 700ML has been a great ML and I haven't found to many new sub shooting ML's that are much better on paper (groups). Reason why I have had 3 and still own 1!!:D
 
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Rem M700ML-stainless

I've used one for the past several seasons.I shoot the Hornady 240gr XTP over 2 50 gr pyro or Triple 7 pellets with good results using a Redfield 4x scope.Initially had the rifle set up to use musket caps-all OK on the range.My first "showtime" came shortly after first light in the Brandon Hills-a nice 8 point. Let him come to within 25 yds and touched off to a misfire.Fortunately I had the rising sun at my back and the wind in my favor,so the deer held for a moment trying to figure where that big click came from.No time to re-cap,so did the old army IA on misfire and it went on the second smack.Shortly afterwards I converted to the 209 primer with absolute reliability,even in the cold.I've shot deer up to 100 yds with it.They tend to leak to death at that range because of velocity drop-something like shooting them with my .44-40 Win carbine when I was a youngster.I'm moving to B.C. where there is no separate season for front end loaders,so am selling mine.Otherwise I'd keep on hunting with it.
 
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