CanuckShooter
CGN frequent flyer
Hey guys/girls,
Well, I have been scouring the internet for the past while, and for about 6 hours today (it is now 3:22am), eyes are bloodshot, headache etc....
I am trying to decide which bolt action to get, and have a limited time to do so (well the truth is I am going crazy not having a centrefire rifle to shoot
). I had my mind made up for a long time on the Savage, and was just waiting for the new centre feed models to get stocked in Canada so I could pick one up, but now I am lost yet again.
I had not even considered the cons of the Savages having an internal box magazine. I mean if a round gets jammed up in there or in the action, it just seems like it would be a huge pain in the ass as compared to a detachanle magazine. Also, for some reason I did not know that the 700P's were actually parkerized which is super nifty (I think I prefer the look of the 700P, yes I know not to base it on that, but it still factors in).
No matter how much I look up and no matter how much closer I think I am getting to making a decision, I read something new, and it sets me back to square one. Negatives I have read about the Savage are feeding/extraction problems, and some barrels no being floated properly. For the 700P it's the extra gunsmith work that will need to be done to squeeze all the performance out of it, and poor quality control/craftsmanship in some areas of the rifle, as well as something along the lines of voids or air pockets in the stock??
So, if you guys don't mind I have some questions (please bare with me, I know your gag reflexes were probably activated as this topic has been discussed so much):
1. I see to keep reading about a deep throat on the Remington .308s only. Do the Savages have the same? What effect does this have and is it necessary to fix it?
2. How brutal is the 700P's trigger out of the box? Is it nearly mandatory to get it tuned? How much is a trigger job on one of these rifles?
3. Seeing as I am just entering the world of bolt action centrefire, aside from a trigger job, is there anything else that should really be tuned by a gunsmith on the 700P to bring it up to the same accuracy as the out of the box Savages?
4. How does the HS 700P stock compare to the HS Savage stock and McMillan?
5. This is the big one...... Are you Savage owners ever inconvenienced by the internal box magazine? Is the hinged floorplate on the 700P an advantage?
I have read the posts here and on the savageshooter forum about the new detachable mags Savage has come out with on some of their hunting models. My biggest fear, is spending 1500+ on a setup, only to have the come out with a DM for the 10FP's a short time later. Is it pretty standard a feature to have tactical rifles use a blind magazine? Think that will change on the Savages?
Hope this doesn't see like too scatterbrained of a post, but I am just running around in circles and getting dizzy trying to decide.
Can anyone offer any advice/personal experience on any of the above questions? Or better yet, anyone near the Niagara Region want to take me out to shoot a 10FP or 700P (as I don't know of anywhere around here i can even look at a 700P)??
Absolutely ANY input would be greatly appreciated.
Well, I have been scouring the internet for the past while, and for about 6 hours today (it is now 3:22am), eyes are bloodshot, headache etc....
I am trying to decide which bolt action to get, and have a limited time to do so (well the truth is I am going crazy not having a centrefire rifle to shoot
). I had my mind made up for a long time on the Savage, and was just waiting for the new centre feed models to get stocked in Canada so I could pick one up, but now I am lost yet again.I had not even considered the cons of the Savages having an internal box magazine. I mean if a round gets jammed up in there or in the action, it just seems like it would be a huge pain in the ass as compared to a detachanle magazine. Also, for some reason I did not know that the 700P's were actually parkerized which is super nifty (I think I prefer the look of the 700P, yes I know not to base it on that, but it still factors in).
No matter how much I look up and no matter how much closer I think I am getting to making a decision, I read something new, and it sets me back to square one. Negatives I have read about the Savage are feeding/extraction problems, and some barrels no being floated properly. For the 700P it's the extra gunsmith work that will need to be done to squeeze all the performance out of it, and poor quality control/craftsmanship in some areas of the rifle, as well as something along the lines of voids or air pockets in the stock??
So, if you guys don't mind I have some questions (please bare with me, I know your gag reflexes were probably activated as this topic has been discussed so much):
1. I see to keep reading about a deep throat on the Remington .308s only. Do the Savages have the same? What effect does this have and is it necessary to fix it?
2. How brutal is the 700P's trigger out of the box? Is it nearly mandatory to get it tuned? How much is a trigger job on one of these rifles?
3. Seeing as I am just entering the world of bolt action centrefire, aside from a trigger job, is there anything else that should really be tuned by a gunsmith on the 700P to bring it up to the same accuracy as the out of the box Savages?
4. How does the HS 700P stock compare to the HS Savage stock and McMillan?
5. This is the big one...... Are you Savage owners ever inconvenienced by the internal box magazine? Is the hinged floorplate on the 700P an advantage?
I have read the posts here and on the savageshooter forum about the new detachable mags Savage has come out with on some of their hunting models. My biggest fear, is spending 1500+ on a setup, only to have the come out with a DM for the 10FP's a short time later. Is it pretty standard a feature to have tactical rifles use a blind magazine? Think that will change on the Savages?
Hope this doesn't see like too scatterbrained of a post, but I am just running around in circles and getting dizzy trying to decide.
Can anyone offer any advice/personal experience on any of the above questions? Or better yet, anyone near the Niagara Region want to take me out to shoot a 10FP or 700P (as I don't know of anywhere around here i can even look at a 700P)??
Absolutely ANY input would be greatly appreciated.
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