Remington 700SPS - WSM Feeding issue

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Well after trying the search function it spit back too many irrelevant results so im going to post a question regarding feeding issues with the WSM calibers.

I purchased a Remington 700SPS in 300WSM and so far it feeds about 60% of the time from the magazine, and i am going to try sand down the feeding ramp to get rid of the sharp edge and possibly rid the rifle of the feeding problem, my question is what type of sanding paper/wool do i use for this and will moly coating afterwards make the feeding ramp any more slick?

any and all opinions on this matter would be very helpful, oh yea i post some pics so you picture thread freaks are satisfied, lol:dancingbanana: (jk about freaks)
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Thanks!
 
60% of the time?:eek:


No personal offence intended, but this is just another reason to stay away from the short magnums.................... and Remington.

If it failed to feed 5% of the time, that would be far too often!

It is really hard for me to understand how a manufacturer can let something of this nature get by quality control. :rolleyes:

Somebody had to testfire this rifle at Remington. It didn't just start doing this after it left that point and began its travels into your hands.

Don't even try to clean it up. Take it back to the dealer and get a 30-06 or a 300 Win mag.

Ted
 
LOL you sure know how to run away from a problem that can be fixed, and there is no way im going to a 30-06. i already shoot a 270 and it'll do everything a 30-06 can (argue if ya want but i wont listen) i don't take any offense either but your post is nowhere near what i was asking.

Thanks anyways for your useless reply lol
 
You have one of the cartridges that is known for feeding problems. All fat cases with rebated or semi rebated rims can cause problems in feeding... it started way back with the .284 Winchester and has gotten worse with the latest...

You haven't described how it fails to feed...what exactly does happen? A very detailed description may help get some responses ...
 
when i feed the cartridge forward and the cartridge shoulder hits the feeding ramp it just stalls right there, the feeding ramp has a sharp edge which is what i think is causing the jam. The magazine follower doesnt have a problem lifting the cartridge but the shoulder doesn't slide up the feeding ramp due to the sharp edge of the beginning portion of the ramp. i thought the spring would pop the cartridge just above the ramp to allow the shoulder to clear this but it doesn't and i dont know if its supposed to or not.
 
vin007 said:
when i feed the cartridge forward and the cartridge shoulder hits the feeding ramp it just stalls right there, the feeding ramp has a sharp edge which is what i think is causing the jam. The magazine follower doesnt have a problem lifting the cartridge but the shoulder doesn't slide up the feeding ramp due to the sharp edge of the beginning portion of the ramp. i thought the spring would pop the cartridge just above the ramp to allow the shoulder to clear this but it doesn't and i dont know if its supposed to or not.
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It may have stopped it's forward movement on the feed ramp, but the ramp may not be what is stopping it... the rear of the shell has to be released from the rails of the action at some point... possible this is where the problem is... but you have to be careful about any alteration of the rails, because if the shell gets released too soon... it can pop right up out of the action and past the bolt...

This feeding problem - does it happen when you close the bolt slowly? Does it happen if you operate the bolt quickly?

Polishing should be done with 220 grit wet/dry paper and finish with 320 or 400...

If this were my rifle I would return it to whoever barreled and chambered it (Factory or aftermarket) ... let them solve it...
 
If the cartridge shoulder is hanging up on the feed ramp, try a 1200 grit sandpaper and polish the ramp to a nice smooth finish. I have never owned a short magnum, but I can imagine that a short, fat case may give some problem in feeding. I have two SPS's. One in 30-06 and the other in 223. They both feed fine, but both cartridges are long and slender for there diameter. The SPS's are fine rifles for the money, but the fit and finish can be a little rough. I used to own a Norinco 45 ACP and to help it feed better I polished the feed ramp with the 1200 grit paper I mentioned. Man, that thing would eat anything I could stuff in her after the polishing. :D By the way, don't knock a 30-06, that old cartridge is the ballistic equivalent to a 7mm Remington Magnum with handloads:eek:
 
guntech said:
If this were my rifle I would return it to whoever barreled and chambered it (Factory or aftermarket) ... let them solve it...
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You won't find better advice than this......and guntech is a professional.....he'ld know.....and I agree with him....
 
I agree with the other posts above about returning the rifle - I am sure that your rifle must have something slightly wrong with the receiver but if you are determined to keep it before you start any permanent sort of work I would really make sure that I was 100 percent sure that the shoulder on the ramp is causing the problem. There is nothing worse then introducing another problem. Do you have a qualified gunsmith near by? I would let him look at it for you and determine if you should return it or if it is an easy fix...
 
If this were my rifle I would return it to whoever barreled and chambered it (Factory or aftermarket) ... let them solve it...
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Ah yes, Remington warranty service.

I had the same issue with the last new remington I bought. After sending the gun to three different gunsmiths the problem still wasn't fixed.

I pretty much ran out of warranty gunsmiths to send it to.

I got all kinds of different stories such as "are you sure you know how to load a gun" to "well it feeds as good as it is going to". :mad:

Do yourself a favour, find a good gunsmith and pay him to fix it. Tell him not to send it back to you until it feeds 100%.
 
rather than monkey with the rifle veriy if it's the case mouth or the rebate that is causing the hang up. champher the case mouth on two or three rounds and if they feed past the lip and then hang up it's the rebate that's causing the problem. you now have a starting point to attack rem. about a solution. do not attempt any smithing without a written permission fron rem.
 
It has been said before....the wider the case and the sharper the shoulder...the more potential for feeding problems in a bolt gun.
 
Like Dennis said- you do not have the experiance to tell if this can be fixed by your questions and there is a major problem here that takes expert care and experiance. If the problem is that too much metal was removed in manufacture the only cure is replacing the receiver . This should be Remingtons problem - not yours.
 
You could send it to Rem and wait a year to get it back or take it to a good smith and get it fixed for $50.I think it would be worth the $50 for the less aggravation by going the gun smith route.
 
Just to clarify.
I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't "have at 'er" with your dremel tool. I don't own a gun that I haven't modified in some way.
It's just that after you've hacked-up the reciever and still haven't solved the problem, you won't get much sympathy here if Remington won't fix it for free.
Sending to a real gunsmith is another good option.
 
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