Remington 870 Rusting

savage112 said:
Neither one of them has seen any oil. All it takes is a little common sense to avoid rust problems.
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...I have to disagree with you on that savage112.:) In certain field conditions "common sense" alone will not keep your firearms from rusting. When I hunt a full day in the coast mountains [lower mainland, B.C.] and it is rainy, misty and foggy, by the time I get home or to camp that evening I can visually see the rust starting. I then have to wipe it with a dry cloth, and then an oil soaked cloth if I don't want a rusty firearm by the end of the weekend. I have upgraded my deer rifle recently from blued to stainless and find much better rust resistance.

As for the finish on my 870 express, it was like a SPONGE and would almost suck moisture and humidity from the air and begin to corrode right before my very eyes :eek:. My only solution to the problem was to dura-coat it, and I have never had a problem since in wet field conditions.
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Dura-coat and never look back,
Mad Mikey :)
 
Alright, so I have taken a look at a few of those threads about Arma/Dura-coat, and from what I have gathered is that it requires an airbrush to apply. Am I correct in stating that?

Anyways, I have also read a bunch on here about parkerizing, what exactly is the process in that? Does anyone have a ballpark on the cost, and is it a do it yourself-er or something I should get the gunsmith to do?

Sorry to be asking so many elementary questions, but I figure that if I don't do it right now I will be kicking myself later.
 
beach_boy said:
from what I have gathered is that it requires an airbrush to apply.
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...With Dura-Coat you can purchase a kit that includes everything needed to apply it yourself [spray bottle etc.] The only thing I did to speed up the curing process was to bake the parts in an old oven, but you can air dry.
I am not familiar with your gun knowledge, but if you are able to disassemble your 870 for a cleaning, then you have the skills needed to paint the parts individually. The cost of the kit was nothing over the top, I can't remember exactly. The man to contact goes by the name of Murdoch on this site, if you post looking for help finding him someone will chime in. In the meantime heres something to give you an idea of the product http://www.duracoat-finishes.com/

I have had this coating on my 870 for 2+ years and it is tough as nails. The shotgun is a camp/truck general use carry gun and it gets put through the paces. If you do get in contact with Murdoch you can deal with confidence.

Hope this helps Beachboy,
Mad Mikey :)
 
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I had the same problem with my 870 rusting, even though I was cleaning it regularily, when I had it in a soft case on a trip it rusted. My brother's did too. And my cousin's... And he's pretty anal about cleaning and oiling. We over reacted and had them powder coated by Rocky Mountian Rifles. A superior finish but nearly as expensive as the guns. I'd look into home parkerizing and using Brownells Gun Kote which comes in a spray can. I've parkerized an 870 and will be Gun Koting it soon. Good luck.
 
canadianshooter said:
I had the same problem with my 870 rusting, even though I was cleaning it regularily, when I had it in a soft case on a trip it rusted. My brother's did too. And my cousin's... And he's pretty anal about cleaning and oiling. We over reacted and had them powder coated by Rocky Mountian Rifles. A superior finish but nearly as expensive as the guns. I'd look into home parkerizing and using Brownells Gun Kote which comes in a spray can. I've parkerized an 870 and will be Gun Koting it soon. Good luck.
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I think the problem is more with storing the firearm in a soft case than it is about the finish. As a rule of thumb one should not store the firearm in a soft case for any period of time more than a few hours, and especially not in a car trunk where the variation in temperature will likely cause some condensation leading to rusting. A good quality parkerized finish will certainly protect the exterior under these conditions but I'd still be concerned with rust in the bore and action.
 
Salts left from sweat or just from handling a gun can start rust. I use Eezox on all my guns and have never had a problem. Soon as I get a new (or used) gun home, it gets sprayed with Eezox, even if I don't have time to clean it. With the coating, it means I don't have to worry about getting around to stripping it and cleaning immediately. I do the same thing with hunting guns, a quick spray when finished hunting and good cleaning when I have time.

We also have an 870 express with that sandblasted finish. Not impressed with that finish, but no rust so far, and it is used as a duck gun.

Not all rust preventatives or oils are the same. Even if you Duracoat the outside, use a good rust preventative on the inside.

http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

http://www.shootersolutions.com/webrusttests.html
 
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Parkerizing is a coating that is on top of the metal as opposed to bluing that is in the metal. Parkerizing holds oil well. It's the finish seen on M1 rifles. Comes out in shades of grey(depending on the steel it goes on), but black is possible too with a change of one chemical.
It's put on basically the same way bluing is, but using different chemicals(Phosphoric acid and Powdered Manganese Dioxide. Zinc Oxide is gives grey). There are home parkerizing kits around, but you need a vat long enough to hold the barrel with a way of heating it. You have to completely degrease the parts and suspend them in the solution for 20 minutes.
 
savage112 said:
I totally disagree with this statement. I have two 870 Expresses and I have had no rust problems with them. After coming in from outside with them, I will let them air dry and warm up to room temperature if it's cold weather out. I will then wipe them down with a clean cloth before putting them away. Neither one of them has seen any oil. All it takes is a little common sense to avoid rust problems.
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The day I bought my Express Supermag it was rusting in the box. Not enough to notice indoors, but the minute I took it out in the sunlight I could see it.

I once tried letting mine air dry after coming home from a hunt before oiling. I will never do that again. I came home, leaned the gun up against the couch in the rec room to let it dry/warm up and sat down to eat my supper. I walked down to clean the gun as soon as I finished eating, and the WHOLE gun was brown!

Now, as soon as the gun comes in the house it gets soaked down with rem oil immediately.

On times I have to carry oil with me in the field, I can see rust forming while hunting and have to spray it with oil. The finish on my Express is worthless.
 
...Hi Sandroad,

Where are you purchasing that Eezox product? How much does it cost and how long does a can last you?

Thx. for the info,
Mad Mikey :)
 
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