Remington 870 weak ejection question.

I have a Remington 870 SPS turkey Gun that had ejection problems. Gun would extract but not eject and if it did, the empty would basically fall at my feet. Gun was sent back to Gravel Agency and the ejector, extractor and extractor spring was replaced. Gun functions as it should now. Maybe look at having a new ejector installed.
 
Ok if it did it originally with the fitted extractor also but the gun is not a wingmaster is IT or have a wingmaster barrel
If not polish the chamber first. Lots of posts here how to do that. Then if that doesn't solve it

Try a slight spring bend. Break down your gun and remove the trigger mechanism so you have access to the spring from underneath the receiver. Use a needle nose plier and grasp the wire where it bends and is perpendicular to the length of the gun. Simply rotate the needle nose plier forward to make the bend in the spring more prominent Just slightly. Don't go too far and break the spring, but with slow, controlled force and then see if it made a difference.
Cheers

Correct, it is not a wingmaster just typical 870 but does not have the "express" stamped on the receiver. I will repolish the chamber again as best i can and if that still dosent do the trick i will try and bend the spring. Very hesitant as i have never attempted anything like this before and in fears of snapping/buggering the spring permanently. AGAIN thanks everyone for the plethora of advice and knowledge!
 
Simply rotate the needle nose plier forward to make the bend in the spring more prominent Just slightly. Don't go too far and break the spring, but with slow, controlled force...
Cheers


so easy to read...

but often...

slow controlled force and no change... slow controlled force and snap!
 
I did read...
Lots of things snap that are old thats why i said im hesitant. I fix planes for a living so i always live on the cautious side and will admit i have not done alot of gunsmithing. But thats why im here asking the questions first!
 
For me besides different material they are different profiles and the old style will grab a lot better and sometimes cause issues in newer guns( later than 86) . Weak ejection is not all about strength of pump in some cases
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I'm not sure if you are serious or joking. Remove it and see how you get along or try different types and see what difference they make in ejection
You are trying to educate a guy with your version that that has owned, repaired and shot wingmasters since 1965 when I bought my first one new and still own it. I still remember for a few more years I hope what the parts do and how they interact with each other. :) Thank you
I have zero issues of ejection on all 23 or 24 of my 870's so must do something right and even I think have three express in that batch like you do but mine are 410,28 ga and 16ga express rest are all wingmasters
Cheers

I did read...
Lots of things snap that are old thats why i said im hesitant. I fix planes for a living so i always live on the cautious side and will admit i have not done alot of gunsmithing. But thats why im here asking the questions first!

New ejector spring from brownells is about 7$. Id buy the new one and have it on hand before attempting anything. Id probably be tempted to try the unmodified new spring first, before trying anything like bending a spring.
 
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Huge difference between ejector spring and extractor spring.

The OP is experiencing weak ejection and stove pipe which is a clear case of a faulty ejector spring. It is fixed by removing it this way (see video) so before go go playing "gun plumber" with a needle nose plier, make sure you know a gunsmith who can do that. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bdA1tFQpJRo

If spent shell are sticking in the chamber, chamber might need some polishing, extractor might be toasted along with the extractor spring

But from reading the OP's main post, I had the same issues and the ejector spring was replaced and now everything is smooth and now more ejection issues.
 
so easy to read...

but often...

slow controlled force and no change... slow controlled force and snap!

And so easy to do also IMO

So it breaks ??. If everything else has been addressed it is next new spring and ejector
Is is the end of the world if it breaks and they don't snap that easily either. I have changed many a spring over the years doing 3" conversions. No big deal most times even reuse the original rivets as I am sure you have also if your handle means anything
Years ago we did all of our own repairs today it seems a gunsmith is needed for the simplest items
To each their own I guess
Just for giggles have you ever broke one reshaping it . I haven't and reshaped quite a few with the plyers
Cheers
 
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Correct, it is not a wingmaster just typical 870 but does not have the "express" stamped on the receiver. I will repolish the chamber again as best i can and if that still dosent do the trick i will try and bend the spring. Very hesitant as i have never attempted anything like this before and in fears of snapping/buggering the spring permanently. AGAIN thanks everyone for the plethora of advice and knowledge!

How about a pic of the ejector & spring so we can see it now. The chamber polish is essential with all non wingmasters as a starting point

Cheers
 
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New extractor spring from brownells is about 7$. Id buy the new one and have it on hand before attempting anything. Id probably be tempted to try the unmodified new spring first, before trying anything like bending a spring.

????. Not sure what that will do but it is not going to hurt
Cheers
 
So 3mancs1 , what your saying is that Thursday if the fourth Friday of the week then.
Lucky buggah ! :)
Rob

LOL I am saying since forced retirement :( due to health every day seems like the other and I am just happy to get up and see another
I am not complaining :)I punched a clock for almost 33 years so did my time IMO watching the days and hours
If not for mama and my daughter still working I would not know it is even friday other than that is order out night in my family :) Not that this big lug needs it :)
It is all good
Take care :)
 
I had a friend with exactly the same issue with his practically new 870. He solved it. He bought a Browning BPS ... no problems with that one but then it is a Browning.
 
I had a friend with exactly the same issue with his practically new 870. He solved it. He bought a Browning BPS ... no problems with that one but then it is a Browning.

Oh man I am so with you on this one :agree:

BUT.........

3Macs1 is going to be so mad at you! How dare you say anything derogatory about his beloved Remington 870’s! :mad:

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How about a pic of the ejector & spring so we can see it now. The chamber polish is essential with all non wingmasters as a starting point

^agreed. The 870 Youth Express in our family has an amazingly-smooth chamber, but my nephew's 12ga needed some TLC. Still, the best place to start.

After reading this whole thread, a few things occurred to me...maybe worth asking the OP?

1. Does this occur all the time, or only when the chamber is hot? I've seen spent hulls get sticky in a variety of guns~when they get hot
2. All shell types, or just some? Personally, I don't dwell on this or bend to a fussy shotgun's menu preferences. I'd rather remedy the issue so it can eat everything it's fed.
3. Is the OP comparing pumping effort in his 870 to the pumping effort required with a Mossberg? Reason I ask...I think Mossberg 500s seem to take less effort to cycle, though I only just got my first 500 recently. Not sure why. Anyhow, it certainly feels like it's less effort. My experience owning an older Ithaca 37 is the same, and comparable to a buttery-smooth, well-worked-in Wingmaster. I've never owned/shot an Express that seemed to take too much effort, in fact, I'm usually surprised at how little they require for an inexpensive pump.

The only 870 Expresses I've ever seen that failed to function were guns that were treated terribly. I have to wonder how much of the negative press they get has to do with people treating a $400 shotgun like crap, then complaining that it doesn't function like a Wingmaster they'd always treat well. lol
 
^agreed. The 870 Youth Express in our family has an amazingly-smooth chamber, but my nephew's 12ga needed some TLC. Still, the best place to start.

After reading this whole thread, a few things occurred to me...maybe worth asking the OP?

1. Does this occur all the time, or only when the chamber is hot? I've seen spent hulls get sticky in a variety of guns~when they get hot
2. All shell types, or just some? Personally, I don't dwell on this or bend to a fussy shotgun's menu preferences. I'd rather remedy the issue so it can eat everything it's fed.
3. Is the OP comparing pumping effort in his 870 to the pumping effort required with a Mossberg? Reason I ask...I think Mossberg 500s seem to take less effort to cycle, though I only just got my first 500 recently. Not sure why. Anyhow, it certainly feels like it's less effort. My experience owning an older Ithaca 37 is the same, and comparable to a buttery-smooth, well-worked-in Wingmaster. I've never owned/shot an Express that seemed to take too much effort, in fact, I'm usually surprised at how little they require for an inexpensive pump.

The only 870 Expresses I've ever seen that failed to function were guns that were treated terribly. I have to wonder how much of the negative press they get has to do with people treating a $400 shotgun like crap, then complaining that it doesn't function like a Wingmaster they'd always treat well. lol

I actually found that with 2 3/4" shells it flops out right beside me but with 3" shells it does the super spin flung out about 3 feet away. So in the end meh...its a cheap build for a fun-gun and it ejects so i guess i shall leave it as is.
 
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