Remington and Savage

mosinmaster

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Hi,

I'm debating on a .308 from Rem 700 sps tactical and Savage 10 FP series. Savage has a very good reputation for accuracy, i.e. accutrigger, accustock, floating boat head, floating barrel, button rifling, etc. Are these gimmicks or actually help their accuracy.

Compared to the R700, how is Savage's quality of its components? Like the metal used in the bolt, barrel, safety, bolt release, magazines etc?

How accurate are the R700s and the SPS series?

From what I read, the Rem will have a smooth bolt, stiffer stock, quality built feel to it, but not necessarily be more accurate out of the box.

Savages cost less than Remingtons on average, but their 10FP series are similar to that of the SPS Rems. I have a feeling that the Savages may be better value and more accurate.

What are your thoughts?
 
I can't comment on the Remingtons as I have never owned one, my Savages have been good rifles. I think there are more aftermarket options for the Remington and that might be something you want to look at.
 
my 700 sps 30.06 has about 900 rounds down the barrel, and itll shoot 1 moa at 100 with factory federal ammo. with the addition of a brake, 5 oz trigger, and brake, and my first attempt at hand loads she hit just over 1/2 moa at 100, and about the same with factory loads at 60 yards. inexpensive to buy, fairly cheap to upgrade, and theyre like the honda civic of the gun world. you can get everything for them
 
ford vs chevy....


pick the one that fits and feels better to you, you have about the same chance with either one to end up with a real shooter, average or slim slim chance a dud. they both have tones of aftermarket parts, widely used actions to build off and a huge following so youll never be stuck trying to find out some odd ball info on them
 
Well my "el cheapo" savage package gun i bought to take hunting shot cloverleaf groups at 100 yards out of the box, much to my surprise and delight.
But then again so did my sps 700 varmit....
I like the fact that I can strip the bolt easily on the 700, adjust the xmark trigger at home, and just the "feel" of the 700 vs. the savage.
 
So is the floating boat head of the savage bolt, the accustock, not big game changers since the Rem 700 can equal it in performance?
 
Like others have said before Ford or Chevy. However I would get the savage, if you look them both up you will be hard pressed to find any negative reviews on the savage 10FP . If you spend a little more now you will save alot later, and by that I mean get the 10FP HS Percision, they go for about $1000 to $1100 depending on where you buy it from. It has some nice options that you will spend money on later on down the road anyway, like for starters a nice HS percision stock, detachable mag, easily ajustable trigger, and an oversize bolt handle to name a few. So if you add the price of those four things + any gunsmithing to the price of a regular 10FP or a R700 SPS tactical you will end up spending more then the initial price of the 10FP HS percision.
 
I was reading up on the Savages and some people that used them in shooting courses had problems with the accu-trigger breaking, and the bolt separating. Any ideas on longevity? With a stock FP10 or R700, what kind of groups should one expect? And does the SPS Varmint rifle look like a better option than the SPS tac?
 
i paid 700 bucks for my r700 sps 30.06. came with the factory x mark pro trigger and had a bushnell banner 10x scope on it, it was used, had 10 rounds put through it. the second half of the box of ammo also came with the gun. try them both see what youre comfortable with. ive shot a few savages and they were great guns to shoot as well. all in personal preference really.
 
If you break the bolt handle off the Savage you can order a new one and install it on the kitchen table ,if you break the handle off a Remington a gunsmith will hold it hostage .
Thats the real difference.
 
As far as quality goes Remingtons are returned (for repair) more often than the Savages. (I work in the gun department of a major outfitter.) As for as accuracy goes I've put a 3 shot group into an American dime at 100m with both. Remington 700 VSSF 204 ruger/ Savage Mod 12 LRPV 204 ruger. Yes 3 holes in a real dime.
 
As for triggers, I've shot both timney and accutrigger, I do like the timney better due to the wide shoe. The accutrigger can be finicky if the blade is not properly aligned when you are pulling it. This has happened maybe once out of a couple thousand rounds on two rifles though.

I went with a savage action for my new build because changing out parts is easy, same with the barrel thanks to the floating bolt head. I've seen excellent accuracy out of sps stock rifles though.

it comes down to personal preference though and anything you plan to do to it.

I think 700 have enjoyed a solid pedigree, maybe not fitting to todays offerings.
 
I've never owned a Savage, but I have several Remingtons that shoot very well. 5 shot groups between .75" and .50" at 100 yrds with handloads. The only thing I've done to them is tune the trigger. I'm happy.
 
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