Remington buys Dakota Arms
- Thread starter 444shooter
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As long as Remington doesn't bring out a SPS version of the Model 10 ..... lol
Is amusing ... I doubt that one in ten of you would ever buy a Dakota to begin with...
And, I'll bet it's less than one in a thousand of CGN members!
Probably not fifty Dakotas in Canada.Ted
So are ALL corporate moves stupid, or just some?
Maybe Remington won't put a J-Lock on the Dakota and just maybe they might be able pull it together for a successful venture. Either way, I'm probably not buying one.
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With the astounding debt load Remington had when Cerburus took control of them I am amazed they still exist, not to mention now amazed they had the funds to buy out a maker, even if it was a small one. On the up side, maybe they bought Dakota to learn quality control from....
BigUglyMan
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No, because that wasn't a bad thing. FN wasn't known for having it's quality go in the toilet over the last few years.
To be fair, where was NEF going to go? Just how much worse could they be?
[/quote] there's no reason to think the sky is falling just yet just because Remington makes a few crappy products.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not, but the potential for disaster is there. Handled a 710/770 lately?
There's been an amazing amount of consolidation over the past few years, I find. It's getting hard to know who owns whom. I was sorry to hear about Remington's increasing QC issues at first, but they certainly don't seem to be alone on that point. I'd read that later Dakotas were nothing like older ones anyway. For me, I couldn't even *dream" of Spending for a Dakota, so it's kind of a theoretical issue for me.
Still, it's always crappy to see a small, independent company get swallowed by a Starbucks...
Still, it's always crappy to see a small, independent company get swallowed by a Starbucks...
I don't think new Remingtons are any worse than old ones. If they do decide to market some Dakota products, it might be a good thing. The Dakotas would fit nice into Remingtons custom shop. Dakota quality wasn't flawless either. In fact, I didn't think the quality was equal to the price in many examples. All in all, we have seen what might be termed as a steady decline in the North American shooting sports industry over the last thirty five years or so. There have also been some occasional positive developements with new products and new technology. In general, my attitude is that things are what they are and I'll wait and see what results. Regards, Bill.
gunrunner8
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Are you kidding me? Are you talking, about supporting Dan Cooper, the owner, who spend tens of thousands of US dollars, to support Husain Obama presidential bid, last year?We better all buy Coopers before remmy owns them too!
BigUglyMan
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What's with all the commas? You, sound, like, Captain, James, T, Kirk!
Just some. I don't know whether this one will be one of Remington's stupid ones, but if that is how it turns out, it'll be just because.
Either way, I'm not buying one either. Even if they chamber it in .303British, which would normally be a big attraction for me.
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My biggest concern is that it will drive the price of good used guns up. I know that my next rifle will be a used gun and then a proper refurb at a shop if its needed. Remington can use some good press and a premium line that can showcase thier venture. Here's hoping they are serious.
It seems good fit and finish with no plastic where steel should be is costing in the $1200 to $1700 range. Years ago a budget gun like a Marlin 336 or Winchester 94 are now considered top notch guns with walnut and forged steel parts. The problem I find with these new ventures is the marketing push to make guns consumer items. New are very expensive but used value is low due to deteriorating condition just like our pick up trucks. The market for pre-64 Winchester or older Sako's is a good example of fine rifles aging gracefully even though some were budget models.
In the end they are businessmen and they will produce what we will buy.
It seems good fit and finish with no plastic where steel should be is costing in the $1200 to $1700 range. Years ago a budget gun like a Marlin 336 or Winchester 94 are now considered top notch guns with walnut and forged steel parts. The problem I find with these new ventures is the marketing push to make guns consumer items. New are very expensive but used value is low due to deteriorating condition just like our pick up trucks. The market for pre-64 Winchester or older Sako's is a good example of fine rifles aging gracefully even though some were budget models.
In the end they are businessmen and they will produce what we will buy.
