I am just getting back to reloading and Reminton Gun Club shells in 12 ga 2 3/4 are available in my area for a good price. For reloading purposes are these hulls the same as the Reminton STS shells? You can buy them at Lebarons for $59.00 a flat and it says the hulls have long longevity so I am thinking they can be reloaded. Your thoughts. Thanks.
Remington Gun Club Target Loads
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I just started to shoot a lot of shotgun lately and purchased my Federals from Lowry's for $50.99 a flat you can't really reload target for that so I would suggest that you price it out . Save the reloading for specialty stuff.
My 2 cents
Supermag
I just started to shoot a lot of shotgun lately and purchased my Federals from Lowry's for $50.99 a flat you can't really reload target for that so I would suggest that you price it out . Save the reloading for specialty stuff.
My 2 cents
Supermag
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Why would you toss the steel ones? I have some of both, and they all reload the same. The only problem with the steel ones, is that the base may oxidize on you, and or start to rust. They are the hull that I reload the most. Must have thousands of them. If you want some hulls, let me know, they go cheap
I used to reload the gun club, back when I still bothered. I used STS data. I gave away 2 barrels of hulls to someone I met at the rifle range and haven't touched the reloader since. When did the brass ones show up? I thought they were all steel.
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All of the Remington Gun Club hulls come with steel bases. Some have a brass plating, others don't. The STS hulls have brass bases. Check it out with a magnet. And yes, both Gun Club and STS hulls use the same reloading data. They are the only hulls worth reloading, IMHO.
Very few people here reload steel so get get all my 3" hulls for nothing. 3 1/2 I pay for. The winchesters I won't take even for free as well as some makes of the remingtons and for me the high brass is of no value in steel shot reloading.
mmcintyre1220
CGN frequent flyer
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- Tillsonburg, Ontario
I reload gunclub hulls all the time with the same load data as win AA. I actually just have pails of gunclub and AA they don't last as long as the AA hulls but they are dirt cheap. As far as not loading 12 gauge anymore because of the price this is true but remember it will go up again just like it always does. Remember not to long ago it hit around 70 a flat. Now its down to 50 at lawrys. If I didn't have a couple hundred pounds of reclaimed practice lead I would not be loading 12 gauge right now.
digitalblue
CGN Regular
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- GTA unfortunately
Using AA data in an STS/Nitro 27/GC hull is a very bad idea!
AA hulls require more powder to get the equivalent velocity and pressure in an STS hull. A load that is safe in an AA hull could easily overpressure in an STS hull.
With the amount of data available for the STS hull, there's no reason to be interchanging load data...
As per the the original question, Remington STS/GC hulls are light-years ahead of the AA hull(IMO). At $59 a flat for one piece reload-able hulls, I can't see myself ever buying Win AA's($73 per flat). Longevity of the hull is greatly dependent on the load; I've consistently gotten up to 10 reloads with a GC hull with very light target loads.
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easyrider604
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Greater Vancouver, BC
I reload Remington Gun Club hulls (green plastic with nickel plated bases) with slugs and 00 buck. No problems reloading with my Lee LoadAll II. Holds their crimp very well.
Regardless what has been said you can reload both yes but if you want to shoot premium remington hulls you reload STS. Gun club will not last as long or pattern as well with the same components.
mmcintyre1220
CGN frequent flyer
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- Tillsonburg, Ontario
I have been doing it for years with 0 issues and so have many other guys at our club. I Original taught the same thing as you are saying but after seeing how many people are loading the gunclub and sts hulls with the same components and powder as their AA's I figured they all cannot be wrong. I just send an email to an older guy who has been loading for a very long time and is very meticulous about his loads. He has done a lot of testing and says they are fine to interchange. I have been doing it for close to 8 years and some have been doing it for countless years. I am not disagreeing with you as i know interchanging components can be very dangerous but in this case it appears to be safe. No blown up guns around theese parts.
Other way around
digitalblue
CGN Regular
- Location
- GTA unfortunately
If you're loading anything hotter than you're average target loads, you might change your mind.
I primarily load buckshot and slugs, most of the loads are already in the high 10s. If you swapped data between an AA and STS hull, you'd be putting at least an extra 3 grains in something that's already pushing high 10s.
There is just as much data for the GC hulls as there is for the AA hulls; I'd strongly recommend you at least check to make sure you're load is still within safe pressures...
- Location
- Nova Scotia
If you look at the IMR reloading guide, mine shows slight component differences when reloading GC, as opposed to STS/ Premiere. They are not identical. Same with AA. As mentioned above more powder needed to get results you are looking for. Different hulls
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Well, check out IMR, they show some different recipes, and have different section for them. Depends on components.
