Remington Model 14 follower prob

F

Fixit

Regular
Rating - 100%
54   0   0
Location
Sea to Sky
working on an early model 14 in 32 remington.

just picked up a magazine spring to replace the missing original one.
but.... the follower gets pushed right past the loading gate and then jams the action open when it binds with the shell lifter.

is there something missing in the magazine tube to stop the follower from going into the action? or maybe its the wrong follower? (gun was missing the spring when i got it, and the follower was rattleing around in the tube.) follower measures 0.435" at its largest diameter


help please!
 
166357_10150382711970447_571975446_16827320_3547367_n.jpg


168666_10150382712030447_571975446_16827322_1524103_n.jpg


spring isnt compressed in the picts.
 
Fixit, here's a pic of the one from my 1912 M 14.

Follower.jpg


Depending on the age of your rifle there were two different sized loading gate openings. I can go take a pic of mine and post it if you need.

According to my reference notes here, your follower is stopping where it should under the gate.

I wonder if your spring isn't too long therefore pushing back too hard. Is it a new spring or out of a parts gun?
 
to clarify the follower is NOT being stopped by the loading gate. if i grab the muzzle end of the spring and push it back and forth towards the butt, it slides right past the loading gate. it takes no effort to slide it past

the spring is new from enumrich.com (well actually from another member who got if from them)

are there different sized followers for the 25,30,32 and 35 remington models?
 
another thought.... if one was to remove the plug on the end of the magazine tube and pointed it muzzle down. what would fall out?
spring follower, anything else???

im wondering because the spring was missing, if someone lost another part, or if the mag follower is the wrong caliber and hence size
 
Hi Fixit,

Been looking through my books for an exploded view to see if there are other parts you may be missing, do you have a cartridge stop in place?

I will pull my 14 apart. I have only had experience with 25s so unless someone else chimes in we will just keep at it here until we get it solved.

Stay tuned.......
 
unsprung length of my spring is 21 1/4". Spring wire is .028"
Largest diameter of the plunger is .4345"
Reduced front portion is .414"

After or during 1927s production run they changed the size of the feed opening. I cannot see anywhere mentioning the plunger size changing. This one has no other floating pieces in the mag tube and I do not recall the other two being any different.
 
if i load a few dummy rounds, then install the spring and end cap, it cycles the two ok (as long as i give it a good umph each way) but then the follower just keeps on going and jams in the action on the lifter
 
Sorry, missed that you posted the serial....... looks like your rifle is from 1913, same as mine.
When you load those dummy rounds, do they feed properly every time or does the second one try to sneak in behind the first?

How long is the spring? You can use a small screw driver to slip it ahead of the load ramp and then it will come right out the opening. No need to remove the front cap.
 
my aftermarket spring is 27" long 0.028" and my plunger is the same measurements as yours. i wonder if the different calibers had different plungers?

yours is a 25 remington right?
 
no i dont get two trying to feed into the action - feeds all the rounds as it should, except the plunger enters the action as the last round is ejected
 
so the plunger should be stopping at the loading gate? sorta like how i staged the first picture above? (note- there is no spring pressure pushing on the plunger in that picture)
 
Under "failure to operate"

Magazine follower comes too far back into action bar

Cause: Loading door and action bar cover out of adjustment
Remedy: Bend middle of cover downward or fit new loading door.

That is straight from my booklet and seems to be the only thing that describes your challenge.

Try to get a look at the load gate and see if the under side is wore out, allowing the plunger to sneek past. If it is maybe a new shoulder could be put on it and a larger plunger made.

Doesn't seem like the stop has anything to do with this problem.

One other thing, maybe the load gate shoulder it rests against is wore allowing it to spring back too far , again allowing the plunger past.
 
Fixit said:
so the plunger should be stopping at the loading gate? sorta like how i staged the first picture above? (note- there is no spring pressure pushing on the plunger in that picture)
Click to expand...

I don't understand how there is no pressure there. Gonna go pull out the plug in mine and see if there is a dowel or something in there.
 
in reference to the first picture, the mag tube cap was removed (spring sprung out the front if the mag tube)

i will check for wear on the inside of the loading door... i think i checked that last night and didnt notice any wear... will double check
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom