Remington Rolling Block 7x57
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Yes the smokeless rollers are quite hard to find nowadays, they actions are popular for converting them to buffalo guns with a road chisel barrel on them, dang shame........ Also numrich sold barrels to convert these rollers to 45-70 or 444 marlin back in the 70s-80's.
The old ammo absolutely scoured alot of the barrels on the ones that escaped the above fate. Finding one in good shape will take some looking. I looked for my own for 7 years before I came across one, the military smokeless single shots are tough to come by in good shape.
The carbines seem to bring in more then the rifles, if you can find one in good shape my wild guess would be the prices start at 700 bucks, you may want to look into importing one from the likes of merz antiques or goodman guns in the states, they have them once in awhile.
The old ammo absolutely scoured alot of the barrels on the ones that escaped the above fate. Finding one in good shape will take some looking. I looked for my own for 7 years before I came across one, the military smokeless single shots are tough to come by in good shape.
The carbines seem to bring in more then the rifles, if you can find one in good shape my wild guess would be the prices start at 700 bucks, you may want to look into importing one from the likes of merz antiques or goodman guns in the states, they have them once in awhile.
antiqueguy
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also id go with cast loads in these guns they are known to go boom with the wrong ammo
More crap spread by the internet, they will digest 175 grain federal factory loads just fine. The vast majority of the smokeless rolling block paranoia has been 2nd or 3rd hand information, generated by fellas who have never shot one of these guns.
The horror stories you see on the net are eather a 7mm roller re case hardened and blown apart by an overcharged smokeless 45-70 round or a BP era 12.5mm swede roller that had a 500 nitro express stuffed down its gullet. I have talked with gunsmiths about this, fired my own wiht smokeless and dissasembled it and did a full NDT inspection on the frame as well as taken measurements before and after I purchased it, there are no cracks and no set backs. Even remington itself wont commit to saying that these guns are not safe for smokeless.
The old spanish machine gun ammo I will agree with you was hot (it was to hot for the small ring mausers), most factory loads besides sellier and bellot (it runs a tad hot) will function through the guns no problem.
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Thanks for the reply, I have a R B on its way, relined in 38-44 Bullard ( I think ). Should keep me happy till I snag a 7mm mauser. The chamber been reamed to 38-44 and fitted with a proper extracter. Now I have to find brass. I wonder could I use regular cup & core bullets ? Bullet size 375. ?? A bit of learning for me on this one.
antiqueguy
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yep im just passing what i heard on another fourm come to think about it it may have been the 8mm rolling blocks that were converted from the 12.5 id not try and run any surplus in any of these guns none the less
I've shot my Rem carbine with factory 7mm mauser and have never had any problem.
I roll my own and use cast lead bullets. The rifling is still bright and sharp. It is more accurate than my eyes with iron sites. I got the gun originally from P&S.
I'm not selling but I would expect to pay over a grand for one in the same condition.
I roll my own and use cast lead bullets. The rifling is still bright and sharp. It is more accurate than my eyes with iron sites. I got the gun originally from P&S.
I'm not selling but I would expect to pay over a grand for one in the same condition.
There were some stories about the 8mm conversions blowing apart in Sweden. They claimed the modern loading data in the Barnes manuals and some others were over pressure and the block was cracking in two and flying rearward. I believe there's a Swedish fellow who was posting old loading data suitable for the gun. OP- good luck with your RB, they're great looking old guns.
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If anyone is contemplating the conversion of a 7mm Remington Rolling Block rifle, then check it over carefully. It could be worth a fair bit of money as it is in original shape. I recently came across one at a Gun Show, but someone had taken a $2000 Royal Navy 7x57 Remington Rolling Block and converted it to a $500 Black Powder rifle.
In 1915, the British were desperate for small arms to provide smaller Royal Navy ships with SOMETHING for personal defence. The Short Magazine Lee Enfields were surrendered to the Army, and even the Royal Marines had to give up their SMLE rifles.
The Financeer, J.P. Morgan acted as a Purchasing Agent for the British, and along with some Winchester 1892 and 1894 rifles and Carbines, some Remington 14 1/2 Carbines, there were some Remington 7mm Rolling Block rifles purchased. I attended a Gun Auction last month, with about 1000 people present, and everyone wondered why an old Remington Model 14 1/2 pump gun in 44-40 went for such a high price. There were three people in that room who knew, me, and the guy who paid $300 more than I was willing to pay and $50 more than the third guy.
The Canadian Government sent Inspectors to Proof and Test the Pattern 14 rifles being produced by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone, so these Royal Navy weapons were also inspected, proofed, and marked with a Dominion of Canada proof marks and a "N" for Royal Navy.
While not really intended to shoot at an enemy battleship, if you were on board a Tug Boat, a Picket Boat or a Harbour Net Minder, even an old Rolling Block rifle in your hands would be a lot better than a Club, especially when the possiblilty of a floating mine might be encountered.
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If anyone is contemplating the conversion of a 7mm Remington Rolling Block rifle, then check it over carefully. It could be worth a fair bit of money as it is in original shape. I recently came across one at a Gun Show, but someone had taken a $2000 Royal Navy 7x57 Remington Rolling Block and converted it to a $500 Black Powder rifle.
In 1915, the British were desperate for small arms to provide smaller Royal Navy ships with SOMETHING for personal defence. The Short Magazine Lee Enfields were surrendered to the Army, and even the Royal Marines had to give up their SMLE rifles.
The Financeer, J.P. Morgan acted as a Purchasing Agent for the British, and along with some Winchester 1892 and 1894 rifles and Carbines, some Remington 14 1/2 Carbines, there were some Remington 7mm Rolling Block rifles purchased. I attended a Gun Auction last month, with about 1000 people present, and everyone wondered why an old Remington Model 14 1/2 pump gun in 44-40 went for such a high price. There were three people in that room who knew, me, and the guy who paid $300 more than I was willing to pay and $50 more than the third guy.
The Canadian Government sent Inspectors to Proof and Test the Pattern 14 rifles being produced by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone, so these Royal Navy weapons were also inspected, proofed, and marked with a Dominion of Canada proof marks and a "N" for Royal Navy.
While not really intended to shoot at an enemy battleship, if you were on board a Tug Boat, a Picket Boat or a Harbour Net Minder, even an old Rolling Block rifle in your hands would be a lot better than a Club, especially when the possiblilty of a floating mine might be encountered.
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