gunrunner100
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The 11-48 was a long recoil based shotgun similar to what has been mentioned by Cat. I do believe they were also known as the 48 Sportsman.
Remington Sportsman 58 12 guage - looking for some information
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The 11-48 was a long recoil based shotgun similar to what has been mentioned by Cat. I do believe they were also known as the 48 Sportsman.
I wonder if these were such a good gun where are they today and why was there so few being used in the clay sports back in the mid 60's when I started
1100, 870, model 12, super x1,1148 ruled for the average guy back them and still today are being used on a regular basis my many today
As far as being used to win an event how many did any of the above chock up
Just don't see a 58 today being used at all nor did we see very many in the 60's
Cheers
1100, 870, model 12, super x1,1148 ruled for the average guy back them and still today are being used on a regular basis my many today
As far as being used to win an event how many did any of the above chock up
Just don't see a 58 today being used at all nor did we see very many in the 60's
Cheers
I have one that won't stay open after the last shot. I like the old gun. The dial-a-load feature is neat. I had to order the end piece from Epps. Didn't know it was missing until I started reading about it on here! I had two, but sold the one that would stay open. For the price, they are a neat old shotgun.
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Compared to the 11-48 & 1100, considerably fewer were produced ... and IIRC, only in 12 & and even fewer in 20, so the 11-48's and 1100's had quite an edge for the Skeet crowd.
Even early on, the word was out that the 58's would crack receivers just back of the cocking lever slot ... so a lot were scrapped after cracking. A few drilled a small hole to stop the
crack from moving any further, and many had an additional slot milled so that that the cocking lever slots resembled those of the 1100. I found my 58 to point and balance better than any
1100 or 11-87 I subsequently owned, and generally speaking, was easier to maintain. Really not a complicated action at all. You're long enough in the tooth to remember Barney Hartman. He certainly racked up an impressive record with his 58 ... although he used a Browing O/U for 20 & 28 (Puterbaugh tubes for the 28) and a Sedleckey over-barelled Mod 42 for the 410 for most of his career. His earliest Skeet shooting was actually with Mod. 12 Skeet while still in the Services.
The 11-48 as you know was a long recoil system while the 58 was an uncompensted (hence the adjustable "HI" & "LO" external settings on the end of the mag. cap.
(Seems I recall there was an 878 transitional gas gun as well). The 1100's came out in 1963 and caught on like wild fire as they were comparatively inexpensive, worked
well enough & were easy to maintain. I had a couple of buddies who shot competetively then ... and both had 2 complete 4-gun sets !
Yes, I saw lots of model 12's and 870's still being used, although the Model 12's in proper Skeet configuration are getting pretty rare. I had both, a 12 & a 20 and often regret
not picking up a 28 when I had the chance. The 42's were a great little gun too, but needed some work to get them to shoot Skeet well as they were comparitively small & overly light,
hence several were converted with over-barrels. The Super X-1's were introduced more than a decade after the 1100's .... and yes, had a pair of those too ... a Trap & a Skeet.
Very well made, pricey even in the mid-70's but a pure joy to shoot once you got them to fit.
The 58, the SX-1 and the Beretta AL-391 Parallel Targer are my 3 favourite auto-loaders. I think I shot the 58 and SX-1 equally well. The SX-1 is of course the better made of all 3, but
the AL-391 is the most reliable, goes the longest without maintenance and with some Cole upgrade wood is none too shabby to look at. Just wish it had a steel receiver & trigger guard !!!
