Remington Wingmaster 870 2 3/4" Type of Ammo

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Hello CGN'ers,

I would like to apologize, if this is a repost, which I hope it is not. I have looked and could not find the answer to this question.

Here is the question, I was given this awesome shotgun and i know very little about them especially how to take them apart, i am mechanically inclined however I hate the thought of marking it up because I have not idea what i am doing.
1. How do i take it apart? any websites you may suggest.
2. what type of ammo can be used with this other than the obvious 2 3/4". It happens to be a smooth bore and a full choke bbl i am guessing around 30" long.
3. anone have some info on what an older one might go for since i was given this and i would like to get the guy a gift or take him to dinner. (not in a creepy way, not that there is anything wrong with that, just not my style)

Oh he also gave me a wonderfull looking Remington Model 788 .30-03 any info on that would be a great bonus since i would not have to repost.
Thanks all,

Valencjo
 
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Any lead shot will be fine (2 3/4" obviously).

Dont shoot steel shot through the full choke barrel (steel does not deform like lead and can bulge the barrel in a full choke). To make this a useful gun for waterfowl, you can invest in a barrel with screw chokes, or have the barrel bored out to modified choke so it is capable of shooting steel. It may be possible to have screw chokes installed in the original barrel.

A used barrel can be found for used for maybe $150, while a new one is probably approaching $250. Opening the barrel will probably cost you $50-75. Im not sure what having screw chokes installed in it will cost.

Which takes us to the next point - Value. If its in excellent shape you're probably looking at $450 or better. Wingmasters are very large step up on the 870 Express. they hold their value well if they are maintained. They are in my opinion absolutely the nicest pointing, most reliable shotgun ever made. I will not ever consider an 870 Express as they are quite the opposite.

870s are very easyu to take apart. To take the barrel off, pump the slide back, unscrew the magazine cap and pull it off. To remove the trigger group punch out the two pins in the reciever. Removing the bolt and slide assembly is a little more difficult but nothing to sweat. it is described here

htt p://www.learnaboutguns.com/2008/05/07/how-to-disassemble-clean-and-reassemble-a-remington-870/
 
Hey Blasted Saber,

That is very helpful info, very much appreciated. That is the specific question i had in mind if i should use steel or lead. Lead it is, right now i am just target and clay shooting so i wont need to get anything more at the moment but i would eventually like to shoot slugs, so i will try and save some money for a slug barrel. Any suggestions on what type of barrel would be good for slugs. and what additional add on parts would go with this shotgun?
Once again great info.
Thank you,
Valencjo
 
If its a plain BBl 2 3/4'' the value is closer to $200-$225 if it has a vent rib $250- $275 now the good news if you have a 788 -30-30 in 90% codition it could be worth $500-$650 to the right person.
 
yeah they are both in 90% or better they had been sitting in the leather sleeve that the came with when sold from canadian tire or wherever for the past 20years plus. so mint condition. They still have the original owners manual but I felt bad turning the pages with my greasy cosmoline fingers.
Another question came to mind?
would it be possible to put a 3" barrel on this shotgun?
wow 500-650 is a heck of a lot of money. The rifle is mint and very pretty but it did not look like anything out of this world. where could i get extra Mags for 788?
 
valencjo said:
yeah they are both in 90% or better they had been sitting in the leather sleeve that the came with when sold from canadian tire or wherever for the past 20years plus. so mint condition. They still have the original owners manual but I felt bad turning the pages with my greasy cosmoline fingers.
Another question came to mind?
would it be possible to put a 3" barrel on this shotgun?
wow 500-650 is a heck of a lot of money. The rifle is mint and very pretty but it did not look like anything out of this world. where could i get extra Mags for 788?
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Yes. All new barrels are 3" and will fit. 3 1/2" barrels are different and will not.

Keep in mind that even with a 3" barrel you still will not be able to shoot 3" shells as the receiver cannot handle them (you wills till be shooting 2 3/4" shells in the 3" barrel)

To save a bit of cash, barrels from 870 Express will work, but you must also replace the magazine cap to an Express cap, or do a bit of tinkering with the existing one. They are slightly different and one will not work with the other "as is".
 
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Yes. All new barrels are 3" and will fit. 3 1/2" barrels are different and will not.

Why do you say 3 1/2" will not fit??? Mine all do. I just put a 3 1/2" wingmaster barrel on an old 2 3/4" wingmaster this morning fit no problem??
Can even shoot it with that receiver just wont eject the empty but it will fit.
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Here's a good video demonstrating disassembly and reassembly

http://youtu.be/dPsGF9PdD6o
valencjo said:
Hello CGN'ers,

I would like to apologize, if this is a repost, which I hope it is not. I have looked and could not find the answer to this question.

Here is the question, I was given this awesome shotgun and i know very little about them especially how to take them apart, i am mechanically inclined however I hate the thought of marking it up because I have not idea what i am doing.
1. How do i take it apart? any websites you may suggest.
2. what type of ammo can be used with this other than the obvious 2 3/4". It happens to be a smooth bore and a full choke bbl i am guessing around 30" long.
3. anone have some info on what an older one might go for since i was given this and i would like to get the guy a gift or take him to dinner. (not in a creepy way, not that there is anything wrong with that, just not my style)

Oh he also gave me a wonderfull looking Remington Model 788 .30-03 any info on that would be a great bonus since i would not have to repost.
Thanks all,

Valencjo
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3macs1 said:
blasted_saber said:
Yes. All new barrels are 3" and will fit. 3 1/2" barrels are different and will not.

Why do you say 3 1/2" will not fit??? Mine all do. I just put a 3 1/2" wingmaster barrel on an old 2 3/4" wingmaster this morning fit no problem??
Can even shoot it with that receiver just wont eject the empty but it will fit.
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My mistake. It will fit, just wont cycle properly.
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blasted_saber said:
3macs1 said:
My mistake. It will fit, just wont cycle properly.
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Yes sir. Some of the old 2 3/4 V stamped receivers also are actually set up with 3" ejectors. Not sure what year rem started doing it but they did. That is why you will hear some guys say they put an express barrel on their old 2 3/4" wingmster and it works fine with 3" shells. My guess would be early 80's but I am not sure. But I have seen them
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Go to Remingtons sight and you can down load a manual I have done it for my 1939 model 11 and 1955 11-48. shows complete maintenance tear down. No problem to shoot rifled slugs through your full choke.
 
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Hey all,

This is great info thank you all. I will check the video later on this week while at home and i am definitly going to the Remington site.
so why is it fine to shoot slugs throught the full choke? How would i know which wingmaster will fit the 3" bbl and eject the 3" shells?
 
valencjo said:
Hey all,

This is great info thank you all. I will check the video later on this week while at home and i am definitly going to the Remington site.
so why is it fine to shoot slugs throught the full choke? How would i know which wingmaster will fit the 3" bbl and eject the 3" shells?
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It will tell you in the literature of a new gun and stamped info will tell you it is a Magnum .
Also 3'' is stamped on the barrel as well.
Good Luck,
rob
 
Older 3" Wingmasters have an "M" in the serial number, while newer ones are stamped "Magnum".

When talking about 870s it is important to separate the barrel from the receiver as they are interchangeable. For instance many of the older barrels are 2 3/4 only (which will be marked on it), but they will fit onto a Magnum receiver. Thats a recipe for disaster.
 
blasted_saber said:
Older 3" Wingmasters have an "M" in the serial number, while newer ones are stamped "Magnum".

When talking about 870s it is important to separate the barrel from the receiver as they are interchangeable. For instance many of the older barrels are 2 3/4 only (which will be marked on it), but they will fit onto a Magnum receiver. Thats a recipe for disaster.
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What disaster???? Yes if you put a 3" shell in a 2 3/4" barrel which hopefuilly no one will do but makes no difference in 870 M or V or Unmarked receivers other than the hull will not eject. Did you forget your own post??
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=637934&highlight=870&page=2
 
3macs1 said:
What disaster???? Yes if you put a 3" shell in a 2 3/4" barrel which hopefuilly no one will do but makes no difference in 870 M or V or Unmarked receivers other than the hull will not eject. Did you forget your own post??
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=637934&highlight=870&page=2
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Isnt the number one rule of shotguns to not put a longer shell in a shorter chamber as the shell wont open properly potentially causing serious harm?

Im not talking about the receiver, im talking about the chamber on the 2 3/4" barrel.

In my post I clearly state several times my barrel is marked 3" so it is not an issue. However many of the old full choke barrels are 2 3/4" ONLY and state that. Once again, thats a different issue then the receiver.
 
3macs1 said:
blasted_saber said:
Yes. All new barrels are 3" and will fit. 3 1/2" barrels are different and will not.

Why do you say 3 1/2" will not fit??? Mine all do. I just put a 3 1/2" wingmaster barrel on an old 2 3/4" wingmaster this morning fit no problem??
Can even shoot it with that receiver just wont eject the empty but it will fit.
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......The 3" and 3 1/2" have the same receiver except for a longer ejection port and the ejector blade is rivited on a little further back on the 3 1/2". If you are good with a milling machine and or die grinder and a drillpress you can modify the receiver to take 3 1/2"and eject them. This is usually a gunsmithing job however.
The chambers are in the barrel not the receiver so the 3" shell in a 3"chambered barrel will be no problem. Will it eject a 3" from an older 2 3/4" receiver is the question.
As I am not sure if this may also be a comparable situation between older 2 3/4" and 3" receivers and newer 3" and 3 1/2" receivers.

I know that my receiver is not a magnum receiver and so has the shorter port and ejector but for safety it came with 3 1/2" chambered barrels. If I were to put a 3 1/2" shell in it, there would be no problems...until I wanted to eject it.

Did you say that you also had a Rem 30-03? Or did you mean 30-30? Because there is an obsolete cartridge known as the 30-03. It was the predecessor to the 30-06springfeild.
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blasted_saber said:
Isnt the number one rule of shotguns to not put a longer shell in a shorter chamber as the shell wont open properly potentially causing serious harm?

Im not talking about the receiver, im talking about the chamber on the 2 3/4" barrel.

In my post I clearly state several times my barrel is marked 3" so it is not an issue. However many of the old full choke barrels are 2 3/4" ONLY and state that. Once again, thats a different issue then the receiver.
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You are all over the place here I will make it easy
NEVER NEVER NEVER FIRE A 3" SHELL IN A BARREL MARKED FOR 2 3/4" ONLY
A 870 RECEIVER CAN HANDLE BOTH SIZES SAFELY BUT MAY NOT BE SET UP TO EJECT BOTH SIZES.
There:slap:
 
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