Remmie vs. Mossie

Pietro Beretta said:
Dual action bars...WOW....who gives a f*ck...name me one shotgun that DOESN'T have dual action bars.

DUEL EJECTOR...that's were the money is...Mossberg has dual ejectors making more reliable I think...acouple of times with my 870 the shell just popped out into the ejectio port causing a jam.

Both are top-of-the-line.
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... Maverick for a 2nd

Both are good. As per earlier posts Ive sold all my remington 870"s for multiple 500"s and 590"s. Its a matter of preference. Besides its a shotgun and will pretty much do the same thing....
 
Apparently I am one of the only ones to have owned both.

The 870 receiver is made of steel. The 500 is not.

The 870 is made by Remington. They have/had a better reputation than Mossberg.

The 870 is more stiff and tight. The 500 seems a little loose to people.

The 870 costs more. The 500 costs less.

The 870 looks better in my opinion. But they are both very similar.

The 870 wood stocks that I have seen have a different stain that may appeal to more people.

There are more mods available for the 870.

That being said. There's a reason why I sold my 870 and still have multiple 500's.
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All those can be good and bad. I liked my 500a's light weight. Easy to carry, but at expense of more recoil. Tang safety is good with a regular stock. A bit odd, but easy to use with practice, with an A4 stock that 500a comes with.

What i really like about Mossbergs is how their lifting gate thingy is positioned. It does not cover the tube mag, so loading is easier and no chance of getting ya finger pinched in a hurry.
 
The Maverick 88 made by Mossberg came with only a single action bar. They also had a tendency to blow up. Had one 3" magnum #2 go boom out of battery next to my face. Blew and broke the single action bar, the aluminum receiver was damaged and the interior of the receiver was heavily gouged and dented by the shot.

The Mossberg 500s and 590s that I handled/used did not impress me that much and the quality was hardly better than that of the Maverick model. They felt cheap, while the Remington 870 felt solid.

As for ergonomics, the 870 safety and slide release are placed ideally for me personally. It is much closer and more comfortable to hit the safety behind the trigger guard, rather than having to stretch out to the front of the guard. As for the Mossberg, I haven't found a tang safety yet that didn't get loose as hell after a couple of years of use. Not so with the crossbolt safety. As for coming with a bayonet lug or heat sheild??? How many bayonet charges have taken place since Korea? How many primarily involving a bayonet equipped shotgun? As for a heat sheild...totally unnecessary for civilian/law enforcement. I've litearally fired cases of ammo in a very short time frame Turr hunting and on the Trap field and have never needed a heat sheild. For cops and even military, if you have to fire a shotgun so many times that you run the risk of burning yourself...then you have bigger problems than a lack of a heatsheild!

That said, each to his own. The Mossberg is built to meet a lower price point. If it still meets your needs than enjoy! However, I'll never use another Mossberg product! One ka-boom is enough!:)

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Y'all can guess my favorite but I do like the safety location on the Mossberg {with a conventional stock anyway}, the way the shell elevator stays out of your way and also what seems to be a somewhat snappier ejection for a given amount of pump effort.
 
made Man said:
All those can be good and bad. I liked my 500a's light weight. Easy to carry, but at expense of more recoil. Tang safety is good with a regular stock. A bit odd, but easy to use with practice, with an A4 stock that 500a comes with.

What i really like about Mossbergs is how their lifting gate thingy is positioned. It does not cover the tube mag, so loading is easier and no chance of getting ya finger pinched in a hurry.
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Yeah, but all of them are reasons why someone buys an 870 over a 500.
 
I have an 870 wingmaster and one in an express. Absolutely love them. I also had a mossberg in the past and really liked it. The Remingtons feel a little more solid though, but that said, both have their pros and cons. I consider the 870 as one of my most important tools in the police car and would not trade it for any other shotgun in that role.
 
stuckon308 said:
apparently i am one of the only ones to have owned both.

The 870 receiver is made of steel. The 500 is not.

Not an advantage, just an increase in weight

the 870 is made by remington. They have/had a better reputation than mossberg.

Remingtons reputation as of late is suffering

the 870 is more stiff and tight. The 500 seems a little loose to people.

Stiff and tight? Who cares, the mossberg functions fine, the perception of feel has no effect on performance

the 870 costs more. The 500 costs less.

So why buy the 870?

The 870 looks better in my opinion. But they are both very similar.

Looks do nothing for performance and only appeal to posers.

The 870 wood stocks that i have seen have a different stain that may appeal to more people.

See above

there are more mods available for the 870.

Most mods are unnecessary and only increase weight without any gain in performance.

that being said. There's a reason why i sold my 870 and still have multiple 500's.
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tdc
 
My little story...

I looked hard at the 500 Mossberg, and went with a Maverick 88.

Loved it!

And I preffer the cartridge lifter on the mossy/maverick to the 870.

Then I needed a shorter barrel but I had already sold the original 18 1/2" one it came with and was using a 28" mossy barrel...so I sold the Maverick and took a closer look at the 870.

I watched several 870s fail at the trap range, and saw a few have service and quality control issues with local folks. Also seeing how the price was insane on the ones in my area I went with a Norinco HP-9, which provided me the short barrel in the 870 package for 1/3rd the price of the original.

Love it! But it could use a threaded barrel.

Overall I'm done playing with the Chevy and Ford of the shotgun world...My next shotgun will be a Benelli. :D
 
cyclone said:
Both the 870 and the 500 have the famed "dual action bars". :)

Pardon my ignorance (hey, asking is the only way I'll ever learn), but why is the 870 (seemingly) more revered for reliability? :confused:

Thanks....:yingyang:
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Better marketing and similar reasons as why some people only buy "chevy"
 
I've got a Mossberg 535, friend has an 870 Express, I think this is a more fair comparison considering the price.
They've both gone through about 1000 rounds on clays and we've had more problems with the 870 Express.
By more problems I'd say improper feeding twice and improper extraction 2 or 3 times.
My mossberg has been problem free.
Overall handling is pretty much the same, though the safety on my Mossberg seems quite stiff.
One thing I want is a cantilever deer barrel for the 535 and I haven't seen one yet. As for the 870 series there seem to be an unlimited variety of options, including Mossberg made barrels.
 
If you take a look at the new Mossberg line up,you can get everything you need on your shotgun from the start,just have to add a light and maybe a side saddle.

Mossberg is catching up with Remington as far as add ons go.

And the safety,it's in the right place,you can tell at a glance ,It's right in front of your eye, if it's on or not. and it's lefty friendly.
 
This could have been titled which is better, Ford or Chevy? each has its supporters and detractors, perhaps with entire families buying into a brand, but both are decent choices (however the Mossberg and Chevy are better than the Remmy and Ford)

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