Removing bayonet from a Russian SKS

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I know this is probably a question that has been repeated many times but I did a (quick) search on the Red Rifles forum and didn't find anything:

I did an impulse purchase of a Russian SKS from Al Simmons Gunshop. Now I'm trying to remove the bayonet to get rid of excess weight and the bayonet screw won't budge. An internet search suggests that the screw is staked/swaged in place and the only way to remove it is to drill it out. Is this true ? I don't want to do anything drastic until I know the facts.

I used to own a Norinco SKS and that bayonet came off very easily.
 
Keep that bayonet right where she is. This is a nice russian sks were talking about here, not just a Norc. Keep it in its original millitary configuration and deal with the little extra weight of the bayonet.
 
If I can remove the bayonet without any permanent damage it would be great. Otherwise I may leave it as it is.

But does anyone know whether it is staked in place ?
 
scruffee said:
i doubt that you could remove it without damaging the rifle... i would just leave it there
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lol... just unscrew the thing. Hold on to it while unscrewing cause it's spring loaded, even though it shouldn't go flying if you don't hold on to it.
I took my bayonets off to clean the rifle and the bayonet.. it's oily when you first buy it.
 
Well, it didn't take to long for the Bubba jobs to start....

The screw is staked in place to prevent it from becoming loose. If you try to force it the screw head will become burred (already there?). If you really must remove it, get your favourite Black and Decker drill (with a suitable sized bit), punch the screw end to prevent the bit from chattering all over the barrel should it slip, then remove the exposed thread side until the punch holes are removed.

Then the screw can be removed. The bayonet is under mild spring pressure (for the locking sleeve). You now have an SKS that is worth about $50 less due to "improvements".

As the others have said, not the best idea. Gunshows are filled with butchered-to-worthless military rifles. Find an old Norinco and have your way with it if you must.
 
Live the bayonet on!Those rifles was designed and zeroed with extended bayonet so remember to shoot this rifle this way to get optimal grouping.

Regards
Zygy
 
Zygy said:
Live the bayonet on!Those rifles was designed and zeroed with extended bayonet so remember to shoot this rifle this way to get optimal grouping.

Regards
Zygy
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that and my 30rd mag , wouldnt that freak out the fudd at the range? :D
 
stue said:
BUT NOW YOU CAN'T GEN ANY DESCENT GROUP!:D
The bayonet is working as perfectly balanced barrel harmonics dempher
and compensate gas piston movements :kickInTheNuts:
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So putting it back on in the same way doesn't just reverse what I did?
Even if it does "something" to the rifle's accuracy, I'm sure it's reversable.

And what the hell is a barrel harmonics "dempher"?
Either way, I don't believe you. :p
Gonna need to tell me more about it. What you said doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
 
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CanAm said:
I just use a proper fitting screwdriver. They come out fairly easily with no damage if you are not ham-fisted.
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My Norc unscrewed easily. Previous posts are why some people are overly paranoid about turning a screw. Get your facts straight.
 
Some are more heavily staked than others. If I tried to remove mine, I would strip the threads right out of the bayo lug. If it won,t budge with light pressure, please leave it alone.
 
smartbomb said:
And what the hell is a barrel harmonics "dempher"?
Either way, I don't believe you. :p
Gonna need to tell me more about it. What you said doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
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Sorry, i misspelled it, it is "harmonic damper". It doesn't matter believe you or not, it is not question of faith, but simple science, let say bachelor's course or theoretical mechanics. And it doesn't matter how you call it, you can even make some guffy devices instead of bayonet and patent them:
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5798473.html
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/7055276/claims.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6167794.html
You can even make it adjustable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Barrel_tuner_pat_5423145.png
but principal stays the same.
 
stue said:
you can even make some guffy devices instead of bayonet and patent them
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O! I found the best one! Tell me it is not bayonet they talking about:
US Patent 5794374 - Gun barrel stabilizer: Summary of the Invention
The gun barrel stabilizer system of the present invention is for the purpose of increasing or optimizing the accuracy of guns including small arms and artillery. The invention consists of a device called a gun barrel stabilizer rigidly attached at the gun muzzle and extending toward the gun breech without further contact with the gun barrel
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If the retaining screw on the bayonet stanchion is not staked properly, it will loosen under sustained shooting. I had it happen on a Type 56. That is why they were staked in the first place. It also tightens the bayonet in the stanchion so it's not loose when extended or stored.
 
Geez, seems like I've upset everyone. All I wanted to do was remove the bayonet without doing any damage, which I gather I can't do easily.

The screw is staked in tightly and the screw slot is not yet damaged.

I'll leave it alone.
 
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