Remy SPS accuracy

Tomochan

Tomochan

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So maybe 'Big Green's' QC is getting better ? I say this after conducting some observations of three brand new SPS'. Two buddies of mine - both CGN'ers - recently bought SPS' brand new and both in the .308 calibre. One went the MDT chassis and custom barrel/trigger route and ended up with a very, very nice rifle but, before doing that, he shot it bone stock and put together some very nice groups - eyeballing them I'd say close to half-minute and, if not exactly there, then in the .6's for sure The other guy had his SPS bedded in a take-off HS Precision stock but no other mods done - he hasn't even lightened the trigger - and using an Elite 3200 10X he has also put some very good groups together. We shot side by side this week and I saw him shoot 5 inside a dime.

Having lots of .308 rifles already, I picked up a SPS in .223 and mounted it in an AICS 2.0 ( OK, so I like the 'tacticool' look what can I say ) and planned, down the road, to put a nice barrel on it but I am impressed with it as it is - I have taken the trigger down and, of course, AICS helps but already - and for a sub $700 rifle - it is pretty darn good.

Pic of the rifle:

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Pic from this past Friday when working on a load - guess I found it - pity about the 'user error' flyer though !

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Gun snobs may hate me for saying this, but the purpose of this post is to encourage people to try some target shooting with less expensive rifles and to dispel the idea that you HAVE to have an expensive rifle with custom this 'n that and all so carefully assembled by a mythical fellow whose name is only whispered in the hallowed halls of benchresting. Sure, I have some nice toys but from what I have seen of the three SPS rifles I have written about here, this inexpensive Remy can certainly be a good starting point for a new or experienced shooter.
 
The SPS models are a real sleeper when it comes to accuracy!
Minor tweaks and decent loads will easily produce sub MOA in most. Stocks are no screamin hell but they can be fixed to be reasonbly stable for most low budget hunting/varmint rifles.

RC
 
It shouldn't surprise folks when a 700 shoots like a tackdriver, it's prolly still the most accurate gun out of the factory, why do you think most custom bench guns are based on 700 actions or custom copies, and they are used wherever accuracy is a concern.
 
thats a nice looking stock, mind if i ask what its worth? great group too, what range was that at? i made a post the other day about shooting my new 700 for the first time out to 100 yards and i was impressed with how well it shoots, even though i cant hit crap with my mild experience level. everyone who came out with me and shot it yesterday was getting really tight groups at 100 yards with it first time shooting it. i know 100 isnt that far and i bet alot of guys here could drive tacks at 100 with iron sights but for someone with as little shooting experience as me to be able to make big holes out of 3-4 shots later in the day is quite impressive for me :)
 
Right about being one of the most accurate out of the box but in the last few year Remington had quality control issues, myself had to return my 700 Sendero 300 mag for a bad headspace ok they fixed it but left me with a taste of hit or miss so in the last 2 years i went to Sako, TC Icon, and Tikka. Remington is a great cie but their saga made me discover that the world is not all green... JP.
 
I would have to say that the myth is dispelled. Wish i didn't get rid of the 5R in .223 that took me year and a half to track down. Looks like a .223 is on the way. I believe.
 
uchi said:
thats a nice looking stock, mind if i ask what its worth? great group too, what range was that at? i made a post the other day about shooting my new 700 for the first time out to 100 yards and i was impressed with how well it shoots, even though i cant hit crap with my mild experience level. everyone who came out with me and shot it yesterday was getting really tight groups at 100 yards with it first time shooting it. i know 100 isnt that far and i bet alot of guys here could drive tacks at 100 with iron sights but for someone with as little shooting experience as me to be able to make big holes out of 3-4 shots later in the day is quite impressive for me :)
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The AICS 2.0 is somewhere around $1200 (the 1.5 non-folder is cheaper) IIRC. The range was 110 yards and the group is a 5 shot group. I was working on load development and 5 shot groups are a more reliable yardstick than 3 shot groups.

Keep up the practice - there are tons of folks on here you can give better, more qualified advice than I can but what I'd advise is to concentrate on breathing, press the trigger with the same pressure and tempo each time and concentrate on developing a good form. Good luck and enjoy your new sport.
 
I've recommended R700 SPS to a few friends now looking to start off in the sport of F/TR and for a sub $1000 set up with scope/bipod, they've not been disappointed. My next gun will probably be a .223 remmy sps varmint with the 26" barrel. It wille ventually end up in a MDT 21 tac.

My only complaint with the remington 700s is that the rifling twists tent to be slow. Most .308s are a 1-12, and most .223s are 1-9. Pretty much makes the heavier bullets off limits until you rebarrel.
 
Tomochan said:
The AICS 2.0 is somewhere around $1200 (the 1.5 non-folder is cheaper) IIRC. The range was 110 yards and the group is a 5 shot group. I was working on load development and 5 shot groups are a more reliable yardstick than 3 shot groups.

Keep up the practice - there are tons of folks on here you can give better, more qualified advice than I can but what I'd advise is to concentrate on breathing, press the trigger with the same pressure and tempo each time and concentrate on developing a good form. Good luck and enjoy your new sport.
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thanks for the tips, theyre appreciated. ive been trying to shoot as i finish my exhail and maybe adjust my trigger to give it a bit of a lighter pull. theres an adjustable trigger in it so ill play with that next time out. thanks again, and yeah that price is what i found too, does the stock make the rifle that much more accurate?
 
The stock that you use isn't as important as how the stock is fitted to the action. Most smiths will tell you that the first thing you should do to accuracy the rifle is to pillar bed the action into the stock.

A custom built composite stock, like those available at Robertson Composites, are about as high end as you can go, and the bedding jobs are second to none.
Being able to adjust the cheek height and length of pull is key to make sure the rifle fits your body comfortably.
 
Cameron SS said:
The stock that you use isn't as important as how the stock is fitted to the action. Most smiths will tell you that the first thing you should do to accuracy the rifle is to pillar bed the action into the stock.

A custom built composite stock, like those available at Robertson Composites, are about as high end as you can go, and the bedding jobs are second to none.
Being able to adjust the cheek height and length of pull is key to make sure the rifle fits your body comfortably.
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sorry im still new to this sport so the terminology gets me from time to time, what is pillar bedding?
 
Tomochan said:
I was working on load development and 5 shot groups are a more reliable yardstick than 3 shot groups.
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how far do you plan to shoot? 100yds isnt a good range to do load development. the Human error will give you false information. such as your "user created flyer" maybe out to 200, that flyer would be well within the accuracy of the rifle / load. Not to mention one can come up with groups that will rag holes at 100, but out past that take a nice .3moa group and make it 3moa.guess my point is, shoot as far as possible to develope your loads!


but enough of that! Nive gun and nice shooting, hope your groups stay like that at longer range!!:sniper:
 
For sure - I agree 100m is a bit short but at the range on the Island that is all that's available. Back on the mainland I would do load development at 200m.
 
Very nice shooting Tomochan.

FWIW if you want to shoot at 600yards or 1000yards it is true that you can't do 100% of your load development at 100. *BUT*, in my experience (and perhaps I should also add in my opinion too) you can do at least 90% of it short range. If you have a bullet that is known to work well at long range, and you are shooting good groups at 100 yards, and your velocities are reasonably uniform, you have and exceedingly good chance of finding out that it shoots just fine at 600y or 1000y. Yes you have to actually shoot it at distance in order to be 100% sure - but you are not wasting your time doing load development, testing and practice at whatever distance is most easily available to you.
 
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