Renagade 223

They work just fine.

If you normally shoot slowly aimed shots anyways; it's basically as good as an AR.

If you're into rapid-fire; obviously it's going to be a big letdown.
 
I built one because I was bored and had a whole bunch of spare parts, took it out to the range and loved shooting it, so I built another one in .458 Socom and built a Maverick in .338 Federal
 
They work just fine and are a good home for any extra/spare AR parts. I would get the Mk2 upper with the bolt catch. The absence of one on the Mk1 can be a PITA sometimes.
 
Thanks for the replies got a MII receiver on the way looking for a walking rifle to clean out some coyotes on the farm . Got the AR parts looking to have some fun without being arrested on my own property .
 
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oppy said:
They work just fine and are a good home for any extra/spare AR parts. I would get the Mk2 upper with the bolt catch. The absence of one on the Mk1 can be a PITA sometimes.
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Yup, I thought for a savings of $100-$200 I would get the MK1 knowing that it doesn't come with a bolt catch/release. There isn't a day that goes by that I wish I spent the extra money for the MK2. My MK1 also does not seat a full mag on a closed bolt, no matter how vigorously I "tap" it in.
 
yes the version 2.0 is better no doubt and it is a fun rifle and many people were wondering aboout prohibited or not ... but its great to use even for a lefty.
 
Thank you Maple Ridge these Renegade unit are just the ticket for the OIC and C Virus blues . Got the unit together works as advertised . Excellent product going to build another one.
 
thegazelle said:
Yup, I thought for a savings of $100-$200 I would get the MK1 knowing that it doesn't come with a bolt catch/release. There isn't a day that goes by that I wish I spent the extra money for the MK2. My MK1 also does not seat a full mag on a closed bolt, no matter how vigorously I "tap" it in.
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I've got a Mk1 and it works great. I got it before we even knew for sure if there would be a Mk2. The Mk2 would be nice but I'll probably just keep the Mk1, it's good enough for my purposes.

Loading with a full mag on a closed bolt, it works fine for me with most mags, but I recently found out that it doesn't work with Magpul 20/5. Some of the types of mags that work fine in my Renegade don't allow loading full on a closed bolt in a friend's AR (from his past experience pre-ban). I'm guessing this is something that varies depending on how the tolerances stack up with the individual mag, bolt and receiver.
 
Bittereinder said:
I've got a Mk1 and it works great. I got it before we even knew for sure if there would be a Mk2. The Mk2 would be nice but I'll probably just keep the Mk1, it's good enough for my purposes.

Loading with a full mag on a closed bolt, it works fine for me with most mags, but I recently found out that it doesn't work with Magpul 20/5. Some of the types of mags that work fine in my Renegade don't allow loading full on a closed bolt in a friend's AR (from his past experience pre-ban). I'm guessing this is something that varies depending on how the tolerances stack up with the individual mag, bolt and receiver.
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Thanks for the feedback. I am thinking maybe I will just keep using it and maybe it will get better over time (I have stopped using the MK1 based on this issue). Yes, I noticed in particular the PMAGs (whether Gen 2 or 3) had this problem consistently. Most of the other mags did as well, and I have since found out a number of AR type of platform rifles of different makes/models have this issue.

I would assume there is no third party / aftermarket part that can be added as a bolt lock/release (like what TNA has made for the WK180.
 
thegazelle said:
Thanks for the feedback. I am thinking maybe I will just keep using it and maybe it will get better over time (I have stopped using the MK1 based on this issue). Yes, I noticed in particular the PMAGs (whether Gen 2 or 3) had this problem consistently. Most of the other mags did as well, and I have since found out a number of AR type of platform rifles of different makes/models have this issue.

I would assume there is no third party / aftermarket part that can be added as a bolt lock/release (like what TNA has made for the WK180.
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I'm not aware of anything. I would buy one.

For cleaning purposes, I tied a length of leather cord that I slip around the pistol grip and onto the bolt handle. Crude but it lets me wipe down the inside of the receiver and run a bore snake through.
 
I think they are kinda hoaky.

I might feel differently if the takedown pins allowed for bolt removal and cleaning like most autoloaders including the AR, but the configuration is kinda dumb.
Great holding place for a bunch of expensive AR parts, but I feel it is a poor consolation prize after the government has raped me.
 
I might feel differently if the takedown pins allowed for bolt removal and cleaning like most autoloaders including the AR
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It doesn't get dirty inside like an AR-15 does.

Not even remotely close.
 
Still, it would be nice to be able to run a chamber brush in from the receiver side (I'm not aware of one that screws onto a cleaning rod from the breach end).

Could be considered to be a minor inconvenience by some, and certainly my biggest peeve.
My second is probably the fact these things won't readily accept a standard AR stock (the teardrop shape) as the extension is designed for the buffer tube only.
 
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Still, it would be nice to be able to run a chamber brush in from the receiver side (I'm not aware of one that screws onto a cleaning rod from the breach end).

Could be considered to be a minor inconvenience by some, and certainly my biggest peeve.
My second is probably the fact these things won't readily accept a standard AR stock (the teardrop shape) as the extension is designed for the buffer tube only.
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The chamber brush is no big deal Remington supplied them with the fixed breach 742 auto loaders years ago . Two simple bends on a brush with a pair of pliers and there you go . And the buffer stocks are adjustable great feature in my book. Like my new MII so much I am going to order another one .
 
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I'm not following you on your chamber brush explanation. If you are suggesting that taking off the lower and coming up through the bottom with a chamber brush placed on a short piece of cleaning rod, and incrementally 'ratchet' type turning it in the barrel extension with a pair of pliers - yeah, that is the only way one is going to be able to scrub the bore and extension. Pretty poor design if you ask me.
If everything is dimensionally different from an AR, why they didn't just keep to the same upper and lower configuration is anyones guess.

I had to watch a u-tube video on the 742 as I'm not familiar with them - Watching the takedown and disassembly, it looks to be a poorly designed rifle and not something I'd ever be interested in owning.

The LOP feature of the typical carbine buffer is great, that we agree on, they just could have incorporated both the round carbine and tear-drop rear into the design to take advantage of more stock choices, including the excellent UBR and PRS stocks.
 
Remington took a twisted wire brush and put two bends in the wire shaft . Lock the bolt open insert the brush into the ejection port and scrub away . I clean my Rem 760, Ruger 44 and Win carbine chambers the same way . All of us old fudds have been doing this for years . I am old school and only a few years into AR's love them fun guns but the OIC has screwed up everything . The Renegade has filled a hole for me. Hope the Turd goes down with this mess.
 
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