Got a Para Ordnance P12 .45 LTD used and the damn thing jams like 85% of the time. It hasn't seen too much action in terms of being fired, but also hasn't exactly been taken care off and maintained. I've read that the recoil spring and mag spings are usually the culprets. Is this true? I've tested both clips and the pistol still jams. If it turns ot to be the recoil spring, are there any remedies other than replacing the spring? And if i must replace it, any recommendations on where i should purchase it? HELP HELP HELP! thanks
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I'm using a mix of Federal Ammunition and CCI. Its jamming wth both rounds. It seems as if its getting hung up at the bottom of the barrel but sometimes the round actually gets into the chamber half way, then i have to assist the slide chamber the round completly. But i notice when i pull the slide back and release it quickly the rounds get chambered and eject and cycles perfectly. But if i pull the slide back and hold for a second then release it jams!
There is your problem right there.. You should be using Magazines in the pistol.. not "Clips"
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Get WOLFF springs. You can order direct off their website http://www.gunsprings.com/1ndex.html
+1 for wolf.
And form the sound of it its the recoil spring. You either have a worn out spring or a depowered one.
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seen it before if it is stove piping clean / replace extractor with a colt / wilson or other name brand extractor
para extractors are known for being real soft and having no spring in them
take gun appart /remove extractor and clean extractor hole / reinstall cleaned extactor
i use a 1/8 wooden rod and a small piece if cloth or
(wooden BBQ skewer )
you can check tension on case/ extractor ( slide off frame )
slide a 45 case on bolt face of slide
if there is no tension or very little--- replace extractor
para extractors are known for being real soft and having no spring in them
take gun appart /remove extractor and clean extractor hole / reinstall cleaned extactor
i use a 1/8 wooden rod and a small piece if cloth or
(wooden BBQ skewer )
you can check tension on case/ extractor ( slide off frame )
slide a 45 case on bolt face of slide
if there is no tension or very little--- replace extractor
Is this a feeding problem? If so ... disassemble your mags, clean all components and then pull the mag spring in tension to stretch it 'just a bit' (no more than an inch), then reassemble. If this is the solution, replace your mag springs (Wolff or something similar).
If this is not the solution for feeding, you may need to polish the feed ramp or go to a heavier recoil spring.
If it's an ejection problem, stove-pipes are either a recoil spring or an extractor issue. Depending on the history of the care and feeding of the Para, you might need to replace either or both. Start with the extractor if horizontal, recoil spring if vertical (go lighter).
Springs fatigue with time and depending if they are under load (ie: a mag is left full over time will weaken the mag spring). Consider them to be 'consumables' and keep a few different recoil spring weights on-hand, as they will also affect your double-taps. Find what is dependable for function, plus what works for you with recoil (don't go heavier than you have to).
I can't recall what is a standard recoil spring weight is - is it 8# or 12#?
If this is not the solution for feeding, you may need to polish the feed ramp or go to a heavier recoil spring.
If it's an ejection problem, stove-pipes are either a recoil spring or an extractor issue. Depending on the history of the care and feeding of the Para, you might need to replace either or both. Start with the extractor if horizontal, recoil spring if vertical (go lighter).
Springs fatigue with time and depending if they are under load (ie: a mag is left full over time will weaken the mag spring). Consider them to be 'consumables' and keep a few different recoil spring weights on-hand, as they will also affect your double-taps. Find what is dependable for function, plus what works for you with recoil (don't go heavier than you have to).
I can't recall what is a standard recoil spring weight is - is it 8# or 12#?
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LOL! Its not my first pistol its actually my 5th one. But first .45!
I'll try all of these suggestions. will let you know the outcome. Thanks for the advice!
The type of bullet may be the issue too. RN's usually work through any pistol, but SWC's do not. The pistol may not be set up for anything but RN's. The fix is to extend the feed ramp half way up the sides of the chamber. No rotary tools. A fine file will do it.
