Replacing the crappy AR180B mount with something decent ;)

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OK, well my latest AR180B arrived with the original mount removed and someone had attached a low profile aluminum rail to the receiver. It was "OK", but not the best.

The gunsmith who did the work, IMHO, was sloppy. The fasteners were tapped all the way through the rail (ugly) and black anodized rails look awful on a parked receiver. It was also way too low. Even using extra-high Leupold MkIV rings, I couldn't get the bell to clear the rear sight. I think it must have been set up to use an eotech with quasi-co-witness which is exactly not what I want in a varmint gun / paper puncher.

Here's the "before". The gunsmith used a mill, got the holes exactly 1.00" apart and milled the bottom of some rail from a round receiver to a flat profile to make this. Suffice it to say, my standards are higher than this, though the idea was basically sound.

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So I started with a 10" chunk of Nightforce 1913 rail in steel from TSE. I shortened it in the mill to fit the receiver and milled down the height so that the rear sight channel allows the rear sight to be used, but keeps the mount high enough so that MkIV extra-high rings can place a Leupold rear scope bell just above the rear sight assembly as I didn't want to remove the iron sights. I also had to correct a cant in the mount - it had 40 thou of runout, presumably for making a 20MOA offset base, though this seems odd as it is supposed to be a raw gunsmithing blank. Anyhow, I reset it to zero in the mill since I won't need to shoot past 400 yards.

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I drilled mounting holes in the mill using the DRO to place the holes exactly 1.00" apart to mate with the existing receiver holes. The mount was still very heavy so I hogged out a bunch of hollows in the mill spaced evenly between the mounting holes. This reduced weight by about 35%.

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I also planed down a bunch of 8-32NC screws and cut new slots. These need to be low-profile to not interfere with the bolt and I made the front two smaller still to not interfere with the gas piston's movement. They work great now, whereas before the gas piston was contacting these front two fasteners.

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And here it is mocked up:

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The mount is at my buddies for glass bead blasting and maybe tomorrow I will parkerize it and install for good :)

Tinkering is fun and this will blow away the standard mount or the Stormwerks mounts which aren't nearly as stable as a rigidly attached solution made of steel.
 
That is some really nice work. Don't forget to show some more pics after you are finished.

To bad the previous owner didn't just spend the $100 and buy the stormwerkz quick detach rail. Mine works great and my 6-24x40 Tasco varmint just clears the rear sight. It may not be as solid as something like what you will end up with but after a couple shots the recoil seats it in pretty tight and being able to remove the scope without tools in about 3 seconds is nice.
With some quick release rings you will have the best of both worlds.
Great job.
 
Pass - I don't know about the whole Nightforce lineup. I do know that this one is now good after a little adjustment though ;)

As for the Stormwerks setup, the original base is held on by only two spotwelds. It's not very robust - especially not with big glass installed. That is the weak point of the Stormwerkz setup IMHO. The one I tried was also a little loose, made the POI jump around by about 1 or 2 MOA on my last 180B.
 
From the Nightforce website:
These Picatinny base blanks allow you to customize the length, height, radius and hole spacing to your specific application. Standard taper is 20 minutes
(20 M.O.A.).

In any event, my base is now a flat 0 MOA base - which makes sense. Not sure how many .223 rifles could even use a 20MOA cant?
 
Also from the Nightforce website:

Our one-piece bases are machined to exact Picatinny Mil. Std. 1913 specification rail dimensions. This design allows the same scope to be used on several different rifles, always optimizing eye relief.
 
Ah, I see what you mean. The area just beneath the undercut should be taller. Most M1913 type rails get wide again at this point, probably for rigidity reasons.

Anyhow, I got the thing glass beaded and I parked it with zinc-phosphate type parkerizing solution. It's lightly than I had hoped and a little blotchy despite being thoroughly degreased, but it will do. I suspect whatever alloy NF used for the base material isn't liking the zinc park too well. If it continues to bother me, I'll just drop it in the blueing tank as-is. You can blue over park, no problem :)

I also parkerized the mounting screws and blue loctited everything in place. Very rigid now.

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Thanks. Right now it has a RRA match trigger, AR180 cocking lever and the nightforce mount. Next it's getting a Stormwerkz stock adaptor and a magpul UBR stock.

Not shown are the Leupold MkIV rings and the 3.5-10x50 Leupold VXIII Tactical scope.
 
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