Reproduction Military Stocks, Do People Want Them?

I'm sure anyone who has tried to restore a sporterized Lee Enfield No 1 mkIII will tell you how difficult it is to find a full set of wood. If you can even find one, it will be very expensive. I would be very interested in buying a full reproduction stock for mine.
 
I could use Gew 88 and 1893 Mauser repros.M91 Mosin and Gew88 repro cleaning rods are on shopping list as well since real deals have rusted away somewhere.
Every time I google gew88 stock I get posts of folks looking for repros of those on various forums yet nobody is making them.
I think there was someone in Pennsylvania who did a bunch of years ago and stopped for whatever reason.

Original M91 cleaning rods are readily available on eBay.
 
I'd love to see a repro Norwegian Krag carbine stock. There are a lot of sporterized N.Krags out there for very reasonable prices,
But you rarely see an unsporterized stock. I'd buy one for sure!

there was a gent in norway making such stocks i got 1 for my krag 1912 model...........not cheep but worth it to ME
 
Laminate might be something I could feasibly do in shortage of solid planks. I would not be intending to finish them, and leave that up to the buyer, whether they wanted to use BLO, Tung, Shellack, Or Trem-Clad (ugh.)




I found a couple of machines that vary in price from about $1200 (US) to $10,000 (US) and would likely probably buy on the lower end. Between myself and friends we have a good supply of military stocks to use as templates. I would be producing what would be considered a roughly finished stock, with all the important parts done. Individual fitting would likely need to be done, on a rifle to rifle basis, which is the same I've experienced from Boyds stocks.

I also have the potential to add the metal bits as well.

As far as wastage, any left-over bits or parts that couldn't be used to make full gun stocks, I'm considering that they have the potential to be hand-guards, Buttstocks (Enfields I'm looking at you), Grips for Pistols, or a dozen other usages.


IF, and IF, I go looking into this, I would expect to be able to offer something solid by about this time next year. I don't do shop work in the winter, cuz my shop isn't heated.

It may be feasible for you to do stocks in your location. For me once I seriously priced out a machine that would be stable enough to do the duplicating on, the router to go with it and a good supply of stylus and cutting bits,chisels and that kind of stuff I was at 3k or so and that's with an entry level and often flimsy machine set up. Not terrible but still a decent amount to drop and lots of that is consumables that will need to be replaced often. Then I thought if I go that route I might as well buy a mill and inlet on that as it would be more precise and way faster. Mill plus duplicator was going to be around 8k. Again not terrible but still cash.

My biggest issue was a good supply of wood to make the stocks from. I contacted local suppliers and looked at wood and most of it was unsuitable for stocks as 90 percent had knots and almost all needed to be dryed. The drying is so crucial to the process, most quality stock makers will say 10 years to dry a good blank.

Once I found wood suitable my costs were going to be almost 1/2 of say what I thought people would pay for a repro stock. After 2 years of crunching numbers and figuring out ligistics and how long it would take per stock I decided it wasn't a good investment for myself. I figured I'd do all my stocks in the winter as that's when I have the most free time.

I hope you or someone else can find a way to do stocks resonably and do one offs of any stock as I have several I'd like to have made.

It's lame but instead of doing stocks as a winter side job I now push snow with a loader as that's a better source of income lol. :) I know lame for a die hard milsurp man!!

I wish you all the best in your endeavour. Perhaps finding a good source of American walnut is more doable in you neck of the woods.

I just couldn't put it together here.
 
Read this thread last couple days, and no one has mentioned what it will cost the owner.
Many collectors and shooters know that a new made walnut semi inleted full length stock, in the US or elsewhere is about $350 USD.
350 + ship 50 + exchange about x 1.3 and then perhaps a fee from mailman or courior.
Final cost to the Canadian buyer is about $600 CND for 1 full length stock.
A newly made handguard for a Long Lee, Ross or Krag will even be about $150.
I fully support the Canadian tradesman who make these wooden stocks,here, at better final prices. Also they are excellent quality.
 
Even though we live most of the time in the UK, mrs tac and I buy as much Canadian-made stuff as we can, even to the point of bringing over empty baggage and taking it back loaded - where possible. If it's NOT made in Canada, then it's a Canadian store that we buy from. Back when Quinté Outdoor Sports was operating in Belleville, and Rick Wright was the owner, I used to buy scopes and accessories for people over here in UK, and must have spent thousands there over the years. Even the knife on my belt came from him.

IF there were ever to be a Canadian maker or supplier of a stock for my Walther DSM [aka Sportmodell] I'be be right there in a flash, buying it.

tac
 
Even though we live most of the time in the UK, mrs tac and I buy as much Canadian-made stuff as we can, even to the point of bringing over empty baggage and taking it back loaded - where possible. If it's NOT made in Canada, then it's a Canadian store that we buy from. Back when Quinté Outdoor Sports was operating in Belleville, and Rick Wright was the owner, I used to buy scopes and accessories for people over here in UK, and must have spent thousands there over the years. Even the knife on my belt came from him.

IF there were ever to be a Canadian maker or supplier of a stock for my Walther DSM [aka Sportmodell] I'be be right there in a flash, buying it.

tac

After Canada, I do try to buy British and US too, and piss on rest of the world. However due to poor dollar value, shipping large item, it should be much cheaper to buy a Canadian made long walnut forestock. I have a semi inletted Brown Bess stock for sale at 390. From the US will cost a Canadian 590 to their door.
I help Canadian stock makers now, and know anyone making good vintage era stocks, will do well. There is a large demand.
By the way showed a Scot tourist who works at a pine lumber yard across the pond, my 51 x 6 x 2 Walnut blank. He was very impressed with our lumber available here.
 
After Canada, I do try to buy British and US too, and piss on rest of the world. However due to poor dollar value, shipping large item, it should be much cheaper to buy a Canadian made long walnut forestock. I have a semi inletted Brown Bess stock for sale at 390. From the US will cost a Canadian 590 to their door.
I help Canadian stock makers now, and know anyone making good vintage era stocks, will do well. There is a large demand.
By the way showed a Scot tourist who works at a pine lumber yard across the pond, my 51 x 6 x 2 Walnut blank. He was very impressed with our lumber available here.

Where did you did you get that blank?
 
i never realized there was such a demand. i do have a walnut guy in Ontario, old as dirt but he won't ship and only likes dealing with people he knows. i hope he is still alive. his stuff was cut down about `75, and been sitting stacked and stickered in a barn since it was sawn. he`s got some planks up to 24wide and 6-7 feet long. all +2 inch. i still get a warp once in a while, sometimes its fixable sometimes not. makes ok firewood when that happens. That involves a 2300km ish one way trip for me, and i am doing a pick up this summer, when i pass thru that area. i currently only make one piece for one particular rifle because all the other pieces are/were super easy to get. i do not use a duplicator or cnc, just a router table with custom made (by me) jigs. standard bits off the shelf. this only covers the inletting and not all of it. the outer contours i do by eye with a hand plane, rasps, files and varying grits of sandpaper and steel wool. depending on the hardness and grain pattern in the wood, these can be shaped quickly or take several hours.
 
i never realized there was such a demand. i do have a walnut guy in Ontario, old as dirt but he won't ship and only likes dealing with people he knows. i hope he is still alive. his stuff was cut down about `75, and been sitting stacked and stickered in a barn since it was sawn. he`s got some planks up to 24wide and 6-7 feet long. all +2 inch. i still get a warp once in a while, sometimes its fixable sometimes not. makes ok firewood when that happens. That involves a 2300km ish one way trip for me, and i am doing a pick up this summer, when i pass thru that area. i currently only make one piece for one particular rifle because all the other pieces are/were super easy to get. i do not use a duplicator or cnc, just a router table with custom made (by me) jigs. standard bits off the shelf. this only covers the inletting and not all of it. the outer contours i do by eye with a hand plane, rasps, files and varying grits of sandpaper and steel wool. depending on the hardness and grain pattern in the wood, these can be shaped quickly or take several hours.

I've bought a couple of hand-guards from you, and have been very impressed with the quality you've done.
 
Laminate might be something I could feasibly do in shortage of solid planks. I would not be intending to finish them, and leave that up to the buyer, whether they wanted to use BLO, Tung, Shellack, Or Trem-Clad (ugh.)




I found a couple of machines that vary in price from about $1200 (US) to $10,000 (US) and would likely probably buy on the lower end. Between myself and friends we have a good supply of military stocks to use as templates. I would be producing what would be considered a roughly finished stock, with all the important parts done. Individual fitting would likely need to be done, on a rifle to rifle basis, which is the same I've experienced from Boyds stocks.

I also have the potential to add the metal bits as well.

As far as wastage, any left-over bits or parts that couldn't be used to make full gun stocks, I'm considering that they have the potential to be hand-guards, Buttstocks (Enfields I'm looking at you), Grips for Pistols, or a dozen other usages.


IF, and IF, I go looking into this, I would expect to be able to offer something solid by about this time next year. I don't do shop work in the winter, cuz my shop isn't heated.

Wasting your money buying on the low end! Those machines have way to much flex, been there done that, ruined a lot of wood. The Machine "Alberta Gun Stocks" has is homemade with 1/2+ inch steel plate, channel iron, milled parts, etc. You need a tractor to move it!

No flex in the machine parts gives a better final fit for the inletting. The only thing you have to worry about is not putting to much pressure on the stylists and going nice and steady. A good machine will take an experienced guy about 2-3 hours depending on milsurp. Alberta gun Stocks chargers $290 for a milsurp stock such as a ross, inletting is pretty much drop in, and sanding exterior to finish.
 
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