Reproduction No 32 Mk II Scope Comparison

Do not worry about shooting your original REL scopes and having a lens separation or scope problem.
I can repair them and I have new lenses in the paper (not original REL) but copies I had made overseas.
As long as your tube is not destroyed, I can build you a scope from a tube....original, no more repro tubes,
Do not hide your LongBranch sniper in the safe.
I can repair your 32 scope no matter what you do to it....even a house fire which will bugger every lens.
Done a few of those over the years....
cheers
Warren
 
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As an extremely satisfied customer, may I just say that I hope you are planning on living forever, Wheaty! Your rare skills are in high demand with few, if any, competing services available out there. You are a genuine treasure to the firearms community, Warren. Take good care of yourself accordingly!!
 
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Thank you Bartoc5 (Sir) for your very complete and well-researched piece on the No 32 Mk 2 Scope. Work like yours makes this site/forum incredibly valuable.
 
Hi there, thank you for doing this review. I'm looking to get a repro Model 32 on my No 4 Mk II and the RSM and Waffenmeisters are the two that I've come across.

I was leaning towards the Waffenmeisters as it stated Japanese glass, though your review says they seem equally as clear.

I've contacted Waffenmeisters on eBay as the Model 32 Mk II they have advertised states adjustments of 2MOA. This is correct for a Mk I but a Mk II should have adjustements of 1MOA correct?

Do any of you guys have a Model 32 Mk II from Waffenmeisters, if so are the adjustments 1MOA or 2MOA?

Thank you.
 
I am now on my second Taiwanese Waffenmeister scope and not overly impressed. The first one got returned due to a blurry spot right at the centre of the image, exactly where the target is in the image.

They replaced that scope and I didn't have a chance to try it until yesterday. The replacement. scope doesn't have an obvious blemish in the sense but it certainly is not well focussed. Trying to shoot groups on paper was basically impossible because the image is blurred.

I'm hoping wheaty will agree to go over my scope and get it properly sorted.
 
Given the evident variance in QC even on the Waffenmeister Repro No 32 scopes, those in search of optics for their No 4(T) should perhaps focus instead on the used, mismatched, but original scope market. Prices are higher and are condition dependent, but not unreasonably so. I am also quite sure that our friend Warren would much rather work on original No 32 Scopes as opposed to the Chinese guts of their Repro counterparts.
 
With the current crazy prices for original "T"s and scopes, I really doubt the wisdom of running up big round counts on the package. The rifles, of course, are not an issue. I had one Mk 2 original scope that I found out from P. Laidler had been nearly scrap when he (just) managed to get it rebuilt—needless to say I stopped using it. My remaining T has a matched Mk 3 scope (inspected by Wheaty) and I use it sparingly. For those who want to own a T and shoot the rifle a lot, I would recommend buying a cheap 1" Weaver and swapping the No. 32 (original or repro) out for range work. The important original parts (ie. the bracket) are still there and the optics are considerably better. The Weaver also weighs a fraction of what a No. 32 weighs and puts less stress on the pads upon recoil. I first used a Weaver in this role when I was building a T clone and needed something in the bracket for the collimation efforts. My clone, with the Weaver scope, outshot by a large margin either of my genuine Ts and a large part of that was the scope.

milsurpo
 
I'll never be able to afford a real 'T' model, but as usual, your posts are very interesting Bartok. Cheers.
 
I recently sent off the reticle retaining block from a reproduction Waffenmeister to Warren Wheatfield to have the reticle replaced.

I was having trouble with the adjustments for vertical, and took the turret head off to see why it was hanging up. It was also out of focus, so removed the covers and adjusted the inner tubes so the scope was focused for corrective lens wearers, which if your prescription is good, should work for most other people.

The reason the reticle block was not adjusting "down" was the reticle edges were burred and had to be stoned smooth, also, the block, made from brass, was painted with a heavy black lacquer, which was binding in the dove tail shape track.

Cleaned it up and in doing so, lost the reticle insert. It shouldn't have been "loose" but press fit into place.

When I contacted the company, they did reply but it was obvious they were not the "manufacturers" of the scope, as they had no idea what the reticle was. To their credit, they did try, but nothing came out of it, other than frustration from both sides.

Warren Wheatfield has the reticle block now and is making up a reticle as a replacement. He's getting older, so it will be a bit of a wait.
 
Warren is quite literally a national treasure, with a depth and breadth of knowledge concerning the No 32 Scopes and other Wartime optics that is unparallelled. Although there are others in Canada now accepting work on No 32 Scopes, I dare say that Warren's work is without compare. He will be sorely missed if and when he finally retires.
 
bearhunter said:
I was having trouble with the adjustments for vertical, and took the turret head off to see why it was hanging up. It was also out of focus, so removed the covers and adjusted the inner tubes so the scope was focused for corrective lens wearers, which if your prescription is good, should work for most other people.

The reason the reticle block was not adjusting "down" was the reticle edges were burred and had to be stoned smooth, also, the block, made from brass, was painted with a heavy black lacquer, which was binding in the dove tail shape track.
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This all sounds familiar. I noticed the reticle adjustments seemed stiffer after we adjusted the scope yesterday. I don't remember them being that stiff.

I have sent Warren a PM and am hoping he will reply and elect to help me out. I have considered approaching Trace Scope repair but not sure f this is the kind of job he'd do.

As it was mentioned above, who else does work on these scopes?
 
The only other options that I am aware of are as folllows:

- Fultons, UK. BDL Ltd, www.bdlltd.com

- Brian D i c k at BDL in S Carolina bdlltd@bellsouth.net

I have heard rumour of a new upstart company with a bunch of No 32 Scope experience located somewhere in Central Canada. Unfortunately, I do not have any contact information for the new company.
 
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