Reproduction Ross Rifle Stocks, Fresh Off The Duplicator!

ssapach said:
I'm still in the process of my attempt to make a nose cap.......for the last 2 months that is. Just get so distracted with other things, but the snow is coming and I should have more time messing around in the shop. More time means I also have to attempt to thread another barrel....

Also, nice lookin work on the stock! If my threading operation works out then I might just be looking for a nicer stock in the future.
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What we need is production nose caps. A few people have managed to make a one off, but that doesn't leave any available for others.
 
The other thing is, there are at least 4 different patterns of nose caps. One size does not fit all.




cantom said:
Everyone I've talked to about making nosecaps...has said that when they take one in to a shop and the guy actually looks at the work...it's something like, wow, there's some cuts/operations here that our machine can't handle. We'd need some really expensive broaches etc.

Not easy items to make.

I hope somebody actually manages to get some production ones done up one of these days.

@ $100 or so they would probably sell some.
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I'm having trouble deciding a fair price on a stock like this. I priced it at the same point as a military MkIII because even though it is for a sporterized rifle it took more hours to build and finish than a military stock would have. Is my price out to lunch?
 
JP said:
Project in Toronto seems to have come to a halt. I asked a local guy with experience and loads of machinery and he said they would cost around $200.00 to make, so I said never mind rather quickly!
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Sounds similar to how it's going here.

Winter is coming, so perhaps I can figure something out or line someone up to do the work.
 
Regarding nosecaps, does anyone have a set of prints, photos, or measurements they could send me? If we can get a standard set of prints and 3D models floating around, it should make things a whole lot easier.
 
More coming today guys. I did two full length MkIIIs yesterday and am fitting one today and one next Saturday. They will go up on the EE when finished. I'll post pics here in an hour or two when the first one is ready to go
 
Athrun[Zaft said:
Regarding nosecaps, does anyone have a set of prints, photos, or measurements they could send me? If we can get a standard set of prints and 3D models floating around, it should make things a whole lot easier.
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You just gave me an idea. 3D printing.

I'd rather have a plastic nose cap than no nose cap.

Digitally scanned and then printed out.

Not perfect but easier to do than getting them machined. (which I have yet to see happen)

And possible to do the 4 or so different designs too.

You could use it till a real one shows up...:rolleyes:
 
cantom said:
Digitally scanned and then printed out.
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You just got some neurons firing for me too, friend! I have a friend of mine who works with a company with access to a Bluelight scanning system; he might, MIGHT be able to get one scanned! That being said, I'm more than qualified myself to just make you a CAD file of the thing.

I can't help but feel like this may be simpler than some folks give it credit for; the main difficulty in setting up a production run of these things is in fixturing tooling. If someone could get that done on their own, the price per unit could be quite low!
 
I'm getting the stock making end dialed in now, so someone really needs to step up and do the same for the nose caps and front sight hoods. We'd be set for years of fun to come if they did.
 
New MkIII stock finished!

Here's the first mil trim MkIII from me.


More details on the listing in the EE.

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They keep getting better and better every time I do one. The bottom metal fits well but the stock walked a bit in the duplicator on this one. There is a gap to the side of the trigger guard. If you aren't looking straight down on it you'd probably never see it. Other than that all the previous issues seem to be mostly ironed out. The handguards are still a huge pain but they are slowly getting easier to install springs in. Guess I'm just learning how to do it is all. Getting the rivets to line up is still a tough one. I've opted to leave the rear of the handguard oversized as this seems to be where all of the originals crack.

Inletting is getting much easier. I can pretty well get my duplicates to go one to one with my master for size so I'm going to fit my test action to the master now and run the duplicator at a one to one size ration for inletting from now on. The outside of the wood I will leave an eighth of an inch oversized until the final pass and then go one to one there too on the next set.

This may be it for this year though, its getting pretty chilly here and my hands cramp up running the stylus in the cold. Indoor projects for a few months again!
 
Very nice once again.my ross sporter already has a nice stock other wise i would be interested in your sporter stock. If you ever make lee enfield stocks i would be interested forsure!
 
Hey Wormald, thanks again for that old action. It's actually resting in the gunroom. The receiver is too twisted to be used for fitting stocks. I'm saving it for when I shoot the barrel out of the one in these pictures and the your barrel will go on this receiver.
 
Beautiful work!

It's not just Ross rifles that need new stocks. There seem to be so few of the older milsurps that haven't been cut down into sporters. Krags and Dutch Mannlichers would be near the top of my list!
 
Definitely, these are just a start. Problem is that I need excellent condition originals to copy and action parts to fit them to.

SOme stocks will be tough to do. Lee-Enfield butts will be a problem due to the thru the butt bolt that holds them on. I would have to make a jig to do these as I don't have a big lathe with milling table yet. The other problem is pricing. A blank for one stock out of generic walnut is $50. Add in 30-50 hours of labour and you can see why they get expensive quick.
 
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