Resonable pricing on Norwegian Krag
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I used to own this nice one, it was a sniper issue, in excellent condition and bluing, back then when they first issued them they did not use scopes but adjustable rear peep sights -
I had a very nice, almost excellent condition Norwegian 6.5x55mm Steyr 1897 built Krag rifle with original issue sling. I sold it awhile ago on the EE.
Here are some pictures of it -
Here are some other pictures of it in this thread -
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...m-M94-School-Carbine?highlight=Norwegian+Krag
And here is my first post on it with more details but for some reason the pictures have disappeared -
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...ørgensen-M1894-Rifle?highlight=Norwegian+Krag
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...m-M94-School-Carbine?highlight=Norwegian+Krag
And here is my first post on it with more details but for some reason the pictures have disappeared -
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...ørgensen-M1894-Rifle?highlight=Norwegian+Krag
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Norwegian ones went through WWII, and I suspect after the war didn’t receive anywhere near the same quality of refurbishment that the Swedish Mausers did. Most Swedish Mausers were refurbished, and any with a poor bore had the barrel replaced before being stored. Most Swedish Mausers with a poor bore now would have been done in civilian service than military service.
Thanks for the update, feel better knowing it wasn't bubba who did the barrel change now. Thing shoots quite well even with powder puff cast loads, no problem ringing 8" steel at 200. I will have to try to get some of the proper bullets to see whether the sights are set up correctly for a particular load. I've actually since nabbed a full 1912 carbine action as well, with what appears to be a ww2 german occupation stamping on the underside of the barrel, would love to restore it eventually, but it will be a lot of work I expect. will post some photos later on
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That's certainly a good looking rifle you bought. I'd love to have a Norwegian Krag someday, but it's probably not likely to happen. At least one of my uncle's in Norway had a target rifle built on a Krag action, but nobody knows what became the gun(s). The ones that were converted for civilian target rifles probably aren't worth nearly as much to a collector as the original military ones, but I'd still like to have one.
Kristian
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Here are some photos of the action, along with the odd stamp. bore isn't quite as nice as my long rifle, but not bad.
The throwing star stamp is backward facing for German...ie not German.
There are weird inspection stamps used for who knows what, one K31 I have has a heart shaped inspection stamp...no idea what it means.
Initially there was a difference but this was rectified later on. I think the Norwegians designed ammo that wouldn’t work in the Swedish rifles but the Swedish spec stuff works fine the the Norwegian guns.
I think I heard this on the CandRsenal video on the Norwegian Krav long rifle, in which they go into the development of the 6.5x55 which was come about via an agreement between Norway and Sweden to work together on procurement of military equipment, but we all know how that story goes when countries “work together” even back then!
I think I heard this on the CandRsenal video on the Norwegian Krav long rifle, in which they go into the development of the 6.5x55 which was come about via an agreement between Norway and Sweden to work together on procurement of military equipment, but we all know how that story goes when countries “work together” even back then!
That was a rumour put out by a swedish officer back in the 1890's. On a trip to Norway he had bought a Krag and some ammo. When he tried the norwegian ammo in his swedish Mauser, they were hard to chamber. The swedish military even made investigations and found the difference of norwegian and swedish cartridges to be insignificant, even though a few swedish rifles needed a heavier push on the bolt to chamber the norwegian rounds. The norwegian cases and chambers were made towards the max of the specs, while the swedish chambers were towards the minimum. Both were within the specs of the 6,5x55 cartridge though. This difference was rectified only in 1990 when the scandinavian shooting organizations agreed on the 6,5x55 Skan chamber, which size lies between the swedish and norwegian chambers.
Anyway, I don't think that was the difference Rob was thinking about. Norwegian ammo used corrosive primers until the mid 50's. I don't know about Sweden, but I know that until the 1930's, the non corrosive primers were not considered very good (bad ignition in the cold, short shelf life etc). In 1940 when the germans disarmed norwegian units that surrendered, loads of Krags were stored in huge piles. Probably uncleaned. In the 1950's, when the norwegian army surplussed a large number of Krags, it was probably not the best of the best. I guess that's why so many Krags are found with corroded bores. Here in Norway, you'll find lot's of Krags with OK bores. Worn but not rusty.
Hey B.M.F. - if you're in Norway I have a question for you. Is anyone making replacement barrels for any model of the Norwegian Krags? If so, would they be commercially available or is it more of a one-at-a-time specialty maker?
I don't know anyone making Krag barrels anymore, except for custom builds. Sometimes gunsmiths might have a new or used barrel lying about. I think Vapensmia had barrels some years ago.
https://www.vapensmia.no/
Here's a link to a blog I found. A young gunsmith is making Krag barrel threads, just to learn in.
http://www.tsbfengineering.com/jorgen/tag/Krag-Jørgensen
Some nice custom Krags. You'll have to use google translate.
https://www.rafdal-vapen.no/customkrag-9075s.html
You're best shot might be to have a gunsmith thread a barrel blank, or install a liner if it's a shot out original barrel. Might cost a lot though.
Thanks for the links BMF! I'll check them out. I've already made some inquiries with some barrel makers. Not cheap but it can be done. I was hoping there might be some surplus barrels kicking around somewhere but it doesn't look likely. I have a couple of 1894's that have had the barrels sporterized. I could have a barrel maker turn a blank to the original profile but I'm not having any luck finding the front sight/bayonet lug sleeve that was soldered on the muzzle end. I may have to come up with a work around solution.
I actually have one of these that I bought from a pawn shop in NB. It matches your description - it is stamped 1896 (with my research, the numbers make it of Steyr manufacture) and the wood stock has been chopped terribly. I don't even know if the front sight is original. I bought it as it was less than $200 and knowing what it was at the time I couldn't pass it up. I am hoping to pop it into a reproduction stock one day and shoot handloads out of it, since I understand that modern loads in 6.5 Swedish (i.e. factory ammo off the shelf) are potentially too high pressure for the bolt design.
