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Hello, i have tried to read as much as i could before asking, trying to keep spoonfeeding to a minimum :)

I wish to purchase IPSC gear, and do not want to spend twice.
My first question would be : is my beretta 92fs ipsc worthy?
If yes i currently own 3 mags, i have seen that most people here like to run 5 mags. Are 5 mags the standard?
As for gear i read that the crspeed belt and blade tech holster would be the way to go. Correct?
For mag holsters i did not find any details. Would a crspeed double mag holster ( that holds 4 ) be a good way to start off? Individual ones might seem better but tend to be pricy for a beginner, but if you say that the double one is garbage i will spend more not to waste any money.

Thanks
 
MartyK2500 said:
Hello, i have tried to read as much as i could before asking, trying to keep spoonfeeding to a minimum :)

I wish to purchase IPSC gear, and do not want to spend twice.
My first question would be : is my beretta 92fs ipsc worthy?
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Yes. Please run with what you have then make a decision to change or stay with the same firearm.

MartyK2500 said:
If yes i currently own 3 mags, i have seen that most people here like to run 5 mags. Are 5 mags the standard?
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Five mags are a minimum. Six is just right in that you have a spare if one gets finicky and starts to not run correctly or you have a large stage that you may want to have the capacity. I run five mags on the stages but bring six in the bag to every match.

MartyK2500 said:
As for gear i read that the crspeed belt and blade tech holster would be the way to go. Correct?
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Correct. You will hear fancy holster this and that but the Bladetech is the way to go for a rookie/pro joe in Production division.

MartyK2500 said:
For mag holsters i did not find any details. Would a crspeed double mag holster ( that holds 4 ) be a good way to start off?
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No. We call them pouches for magazines. Holsters are for pistols.

MartyK2500 said:
Individual ones might seem better but tend to be pricy for a beginner, but if you say that the double one is garbage i will spend more not to waste any money.
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Don't waste if you want the proper stuff. Not to say buy the fancier gear or anything but CR Speed builds good dependable stuff. DAA will be brought up but they are expensive and a little too plastic on the inside - easy to break? I started with Bladetech double mag pouches bought used then sold easily once I upgraded. Look around for used stuff first. Remember you may not like the game. I can almost assure you it will grab your wallet for the next couple of years but you never know with interpersonal stuff and the like.

MartyK2500 said:
Thanks
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Your welcome. Say Hi at a match sometime soon.
 
Never ever get double mag pouches. For IPSC you need ones that can be adjusted individually. Especially if you're buying the new ones. CRSpeed or Ghost pouches are reliable.
 
D , thank you for the elaborate reply, this pretty much set me up to purchase what i need. You brought up an exelent point, try to buy used as i may not like the game. Not because the game looks really fun and not because i really enjoy pistol shooting that the game will actually be fun to me. I will try to source a few parts of the EE in the days to come.

euxx , understood. I was going to get cr speed double pouch, but i will get 4 individual ones instead.
 
+1 on the CR-Speed belt and pouches and Bladetech DOH holster, or if you don't plan to shoot in the U.S. you could just go with the CR-Speed holster. They are more expensive than Bladetech but can be adapted to pretty much any gun....in case you decide to change at some point you would not have to change holsters.

Re. Beretta: Shoot it for a while and see how it goes. While attending matches and practices, ask other shooters what they are shooting and why they are shooting it. Most of them would likely be only too happy to share their experiences and let you try shooting their guns. This way you can over time access a wide cross-section of equipment and platforms, gradually boiling down your preferences to the essentials. You may even decide to just stay long-term with the Beretta.
 
Perfect, i just passed my order at brant shooting sports
1x blade tech doh holster
1x cr.speed belt
4x individual cr.speed mag pouches

Was just over 300$ with taxes and shipping. Worst case scenario i will sell everything for 200$ on EE if i don't like the game. I have seen bigger loses towards things i have not liked in the past.
 
Phone back and order another mag pouch. I carry 5 mags on my belt, and in the past I've needed every single one. Not often now, but back when I started, quite common. on a 32 round stage, depending on how it's setup with movement etc, having 5 mags is a nice buffer. Which of course means you need at least 6 mags, 7 is better though. One is stripper mag, which you either pocket or put on the ground after loading your first round, then you put a full mag in and have 5 on your belt. Is 7 really necessary? probably not, but if you have the mags use em. Also, consider purchasing mags just for practice (one of them makes a great stripper mag). I run 12 mags, 6 for practice, 6 for matches, and that's not including all the spares. sigh, back when I started (and I shot a Beretta for a number of years) I swore I'd never get all gamey like I am now. sigh.
 
Lol this game seems to be quite ammo consuming!!!
How many rounds are used in a standard routine practice? And in a standard match?
Right now i shoot about 300 rounds per week, practicing regular bullseye. I could afford to shoot up to 400/week but past that i would have to maybe cut somewhere else.

May i also ask what are stripper mags?
 
Current US Production champ and 2nd place at the worlds last year got to GM level in only about 5000 rounds. He was doing a lot of dry fire practice on top of that. So as the 1st guy at the wolds.
300 per week is pretty good round count if you use them wisely. You may want to consider taking ipsc-specific training to improve faster. Few hours one on one with some experinced shooter and coach will go a long way.
 
A large measure of what we do in IPSC can (probably should) be trained in dry fire and CONFIRMED in live fire. Dry fire removes the distraction of recoil and noise and lets you focus on the physical technique. As such, monstrous yearly ammo expenditures aren't necessarily the best approach. If can afford it, fine, but if you practice sensibly with specific goals in mind when you are shooting, you can be way more cost-effective than those who typically throw gobs of money down range in ballistic masturbation.
 
Sounds good guys, i have already taken some issf coaching this year. I learned that issf was not for me, but got some good experience out of it. Out of this i have started using snap caps for dry fire (wich i do +/- 30 mins a week), and a training agenda to mark down my weekly progress and training.

and yes i did love having some coaching, and am willing to pay someone for some in the Ottawa region.
 
MartyK2500 said:
... i have started using snap caps for dry fire...
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You need to get out of the habit of using snap caps. If they're found in your gun at an IPSC event; you're disqualified.

Besides that, they don't do anything. You can't hurt your center fire pistol dry firing it with nothing in the chamber.
 
Freedom Ventures said:
You need to get out of the habit of using snap caps. If they're found in your gun at an IPSC event; you're disqualified.
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Said that, I'd still recommend to use dummy ammo with the same bullets you're using for live practice to get used to the real magazine weight while practicing your reloads and draw.

Alternative to that is to get dummy magazines of the same "loaded weight" (you can get those for STI/SVI guns, but I doubt anyone making those for Beretta or even CZ).
 
Slavex said:
Phone back and order another mag pouch. I carry 5 mags on my belt, and in the past I've needed every single one. Not often now, but back when I started, quite common. on a 32 round stage, depending on how it's setup with movement etc, having 5 mags is a nice buffer. Which of course means you need at least 6 mags, 7 is better though. One is stripper mag, which you either pocket or put on the ground after loading your first round, then you put a full mag in and have 5 on your belt. Is 7 really necessary? probably not, but if you have the mags use em. Also, consider purchasing mags just for practice (one of them makes a great stripper mag). I run 12 mags, 6 for practice, 6 for matches, and that's not including all the spares. sigh, back when I started (and I shot a Beretta for a number of years) I swore I'd never get all gamey like I am now. sigh.
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i feel like this would be a good place to post an example video of why you carry at least 5 mags... now if only there was a video from nationals demonstrating it...
 
heavenIsAlie said:
i feel like this would be a good place to post an example video of why you carry at least 5 mags... now if only there was a video from nationals demonstrating it...
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For example, a field course (e.g. 32 rounds) with an unloaded start that is set as such that you have to do a reload after every 6 shots (or you do a standing reload and lose time). So 5 magazines will have to be on the belt.

PS: such course is not necessarily great, but we all see something like that once in a while anyways...
 
or if you were to shoot a large course of fire and have a malfunction or perhaps throw a mag over a wall on a reload...

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