Restricted PAL Story

Ganderite

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A buddy of mine let his RPAL lapse. He got another one, but has been advised he has lost his 12.6 rights.

His only prohib is a H&R 922 4" he has owned since a kid. The gun is not worth much, but it is important to him.

I have a H&R 929 with a 6". Over the phone the barrels appeared somilar, so we agreed to trade barrels. he would get to keep his beloved firt pistol and I would have a shorter barrel.

After a bit of research I have discovered the barrels are not interchangble because the frames are different lengths. The 929 barrel shank is longer.

Numrich and Sarco do not have a longer 922 barel in stock. Does anyone know of a H&R 922 barrel source in Canada or USA?

Or, does anyone have a 5" or 6" 922 they would like to convert to a 4" by way of a trade?
 
Worthwhile, or sentimental enough to have a gunsmith custom turn a restricted length barrel for him? One question--how has he managed to retain possession of this prohib if his RPAL had lapsed and he lost his status? Has he appealed to the CFC for reinstatement?

Sorry, I can't help much.
 
Is there such a thing as reinstatement?

Actually, i think i mispoke. His problem was the handguns were supposed to all be re-registered. He did not hear about it and missed the deadline.

So we have to make it a restricted instead of prohibited.
 
I don't know about the legality of it, but what if he removed the 4'' barrel altogether and thus made the pistol completely inoperable (no barrel)? He could keep the 4'' one apart from the gun, as the barrel is not a prohibited device on it's own - only when mounted on a firearm. By the same process of elimination, the gun itself shouldn't be prohibited as long as the barrel is not on it and it can't shoot.

He could have the barrel removal job certified by a gunsmith or something, keep the gun with the barrel off & separate and claim that he's in the market for a longer barrel... and that he will advise the CFO once he finds it and has it installed. For all legal purposes, the pistol should no longer have a prohibited status, as the only thing left on it would be the frame and the slide - both of which aren't prohibited as per the Firearms Act's standards AFAIK.

Just a thought... Maybe someone who has experience with this can shed some light on the topic.
 
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Ganderite said:
Is there such a thing as reinstatement?

Actually, i think i mispoke. His problem was the handguns were supposed to all be re-registered. He did not hear about it and missed the deadline.

So we have to make it a restricted instead of prohibited.
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Then I am clearly missing something here. If your buddy's RPAL didn't expire, then he would still have his 12(6) status, and I am wondering why he would need to re-register previously registered firearms? However, if for whatever reason he does (or they weren't), I do believe the registration amnesty is still in effect... He should talk to the CFC legal dept. for clarification and further instructions.

As for reinstatement, I'm not entirely sure, but there must be some leeway in the letter of the law, for example, if one were in the Canadian Forces and deployed overseas during which time his RPAL expiration deadline came up, I highly doubt that he would lose his firearms and/or prohib status (if he had one)... I don't see why the CFC couldn't backdate the renewal, rather than take away one's possessions if he had a reasonable explanation/legal excuse, just like the gov't does with medical coverage...

As well, from a legal standpoint (I'm not a lawyer, but my wife is a Crown prosecutor), did they notify him properly via registered mail? If not, how do they determine that he was duly served notice and thus derelict in his duty to re-register, or did he just move and neglect to inform the CFC of his new address ;)... Oops!
 
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The short barrel alone is a prohibited device.

762mm said:
I don't know about the legality of it, but what if he removed the 4'' barrel altogether and thus made the pistol completely inoperable (no barrel)? He could keep the 4'' one apart from the gun, as the barrel is not a prohibited device on it's own - only when mounted on a firearm. By the same process of elimination, the gun itself shouldn't be prohibited as long as the barrel is not on it and it can't shoot.

He could have the barrel removal job certified by a gunsmith or something, keep the gun with the barrel off & separate and claim that he's in the market for a longer barrel... and that he will advise the CFO once he finds it and has it installed. For all legal purposes, the pistol should no longer have a prohibited status, as the only thing left on it would be the frame and the slide - both of which aren't prohibited as per the Firearms Act's standards AFAIK.

Just a thought... Maybe someone who has experience with this can shed some light on the topic.
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Saying it and saying it doesn't make it true. You, Sir, are guilty of spreading false news.

The short barrel - alone - is a prohibited device.

(Prohibited as in, 5 years in jail.)
 
When the registry was changed from RCMP to the Moncton outfit, we were asked to re-register our handguns. Some people did not. If they own prohibs they cannot now be regsitered. This is what happened to him. Only solution is to re-barrel it and then he can make a new registration for an unlicensed restricted gun.

Still looking for a 922 6" barrel.
 
Wendell said:
Saying it and saying it doesn't make it true. You, Sir, are guilty of spreading false news.

The short barrel - alone - is a prohibited device.

(Prohibited as in, 5 years in jail.)
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Agreed on the prohib part, but REALLY what judge is going to give a guy 5 years for that???? Specially with a clean record....LOL.........remember that CDN courts are riddled with SOFT LIEBERAL judges.
 
Aw yes, soft judges when you are a drug dealing kid killing import with no sense of morality and a record his arms lenght, good honest guy, no record, he gets the 5 years!

Scott
 
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