Restricted shotguns?

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Hey guys.

I recently got a DA Grizzly-Mag 8.5".

First of all, holy crap it's heavy! and the pump action is harder than my other shotties.

But my question is as follows:

I'd love to put a folding stock on it, but does this make it restricted or prohib?

And if it's restricted, technically doesn't that mean if I do it, I have to call in to register it and get the registration slips and whatnot?
 
i am back . this is what i found . definition of a prohibited firearm according to the criminal code . a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun whether by sawing or cutting or any other alteration and that so adapted is less than 660 m.m. in length . i am aware that some short shotguns under twenty six inches are registered as resricted with pistol grips as i have a couple in this catergory but i believe a folding stock is a prohib. the dlask and grizzly guns with a pistol grip are easily registered as resricted under the twenty six inch length . i will do some more digging as i realize this section of the criminal code is hard to decipher and does not put a lot of light on my position .
 
No my 8.5 with pistol grip is restricted and registered as such. Folding stock is no different

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Definition of a restricted firearm

According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:

a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,
a firearm that
is not a prohibited firearm,
has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and
is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner,
a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise, or
a firearm of any other kind that is prescribed to be a restricted firearm

Definition of a prohibited firearm

According to the Criminal Code, a prohibited firearm is:

a handgun that
has a barrel equal to or less than 105 mm in length, or
is designed or adapted to discharge a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge, but does not include any such handgun that is prescribed, where the handgun is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,
a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,
is less than 660 mm in length, or
is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,
an automatic firearm, whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger, or
any firearm that is prescribed to be a prohibited firearm
 
dogzilla said:
No my 8.5 with pistol grip is restricted and registered as such. Folding stock is no different

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Don't take this the wrong way, but...

What the heck is the purpose of that thing? Even if it wasn't restricted, I can't imagine much use for it... but as a range toy?

Educate this party pooper.
 
i like your gun dogzilla . it is a thing of beauty . i especially like the fact you have a custom length barrel to fit the short mag. i am going to do some more digging on the subject as i may well be mistaken about the folding stock .
 
I currently have 8 wingmasters. This is exactly what you said, a range toy for the action range with birdshot and metal plates. I don't hunt and don't shoot anywhere but the range, and it's a lot of fun, but I have said other times here that I wouldn't use it for anything serious, and even with a stock wouldn't use it in the bush. My personal choice would be either 14" or 18". But you have to admit, the short gun looks just plain nasty. It's one of these "I built it just because I was bored" guns
 
thanks krg for your post . i am more confused than ever after reading the law as posted .damned confusing if you ask me .if you read the restricted classification it seems as if the shotgun falls in to this category with a folding stock. if you read the prohibited class law it also seems to fall in to that class .
 
if you read the prohibited class law it also seems to fall in to that class .
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Cutting the barrel is the one thing that is guaranteed to put your gun into the prohibited class.

Cutting the stock, or replacing it with a folder, or replacing it with a pistol grip, will likely put you into the restricted/registered class.
 
dogzilla said:
No my 8.5 with pistol grip is restricted and registered as such. Folding stock is no different

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You are not the only one that appreciates restricted shotguns dogzilla.


I recently discovered that the Canadian legally similar M37 Ithaca Stakeout is not importable from the USA. Nor is the Ithaca Auto Burglar, nor is the original 14 inch barrelled Ithaca made M4 scout. :(
 
i am stubborn when i think i am right but i found out this morning after talking to a tec in Ottawa that my interpretation of folding stocks and short barrel combinations was wrong . it is as dogzilla and McCoy say a restricted class shotgun. there is nothing prohibited about it . thanks for putting me straight and i hear that crow is not half bad if cooked properly.thanks for posting all those nice pics of an interesting collection of short barrel shotguns .
 
farmer47 said:
i am stubborn when i think i am right but i found out this morning after talking to a tec in Ottawa that my interpretation of folding stocks and short barrel combinations was wrong . it is as dogzilla and McCoy say a restricted class shotgun. there is nothing prohibited about it . thanks for putting me straight and i hear that crow is not half bad if cooked properly.thanks for posting all those nice pics of an interesting collection of short barrel shotguns .
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^Well posted friend. May I suggest that this topic is probably one of the least discussed subjects on this forum.

have a good day now folks........;)
 
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