Restricted storage question?


Me to soo we have no problem. Digidou.

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According to the rcmp website if it is in a purpose made gun storage cabinet, ( guns safe/ metal gun cabinet ) it does not need a trigger lock. If you have it in a display case or in a transport case it needs a trigger lock aswell.
 
According to the rcmp website if it is in a purpose made gun storage cabinet, ( guns safe/ metal gun cabinet ) it does not need a trigger lock. If you have it in a display case or in a transport case it needs a trigger lock aswell.

Safe /vault, no trigger lock
Metal gun cabinet, trigger lock.
 
Safe /vault, no trigger lock
Metal gun cabinet, trigger lock.


Metal Gun Cabinet NO trigger lock. Somewhere on this thread you will see a Judge in Ontario has rules a metal gun cabinet is a safe. See post 83

I asked a retired judge about this very ruling. His reply east that unless the Judge's ruling was over turned on appeal it is the legal ruling. Why You continue to post what you did is really difficult to understand. Even the RCMP ewebsite apparently reflects the Judges decision.

Take Care

Bob
 
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Metal Gun Cabinet NO trigger lock. Somewhere on this thread you will see a Judge in Ontario has rules a metal gun cabinet is a safe. See post 83

I asked a retired judge about this very ruling. His reply east that unless the Judge's ruling was over turned on appeal it is the legal ruling. Why You continue to post what you did is really difficult to understand. Even the RCMP ewebsite apparently reflects the Judges decision.

Take Care


Bob

Just had a look at the RCMP/CFP website. It says what caramel says.
In addition, it has been pointed out many times on this forum that the RCMP website is not the law, and that reference to the actual law is better than referring to the RCMP's interpretation of the law.
There is the Harry Barnes case law precedent from Ontario. It is not a SCoC decision. Other judges might very well respect it.
 
I dont mind saying what the judge say but it all come down to LEO interpretation.

You can have a discussion automaticly shut down when they see the big safe or you never know if an interpretation will lead to a SHTF situation.

I choose to AVOID all trouble as much as i can, but this is just me.

PS: My opinion is not the law, It's what i feel the most comfortable with. i share with others what i feel. Period.
 
Just had a look at the RCMP/CFP website. It says what caramel says.
In addition, it has been pointed out many times on this forum that the RCMP website is not the law, and that reference to the actual law is better than referring to the RCMP's interpretation of the law.
There is the Harry Barnes case law precedent from Ontario. It is not a SCoC decision. Other judges might very well respect it.


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he Judge I spoke to said unless it was appealed, and the Ontario case was not apparently, the decision would be settled law. It would be rare that another Judge would no respect the decision if all the facts were the same ie locked metal cabinet. He was quite clear when he said rare meant never going to happen. I suspect the reason the decision was not appealed was due to there being no reason to appeal it on such a small matter. I had a representative of the Alberta CFO office try to tell me you needed a trigger lock on guns stored in a safe, which was wrong and I told her so. The CFO employees are clerks, while pleasant in the main to deal with, are not executive material. My experience with the RCMP has been they have a lot bigger fish to fry than worrying about where and how your guns are stored.

Take Care

Bob
 
...Do not be so afraid. No one will come to check your house for that. First, they would need someone to report you. Second, they would need a warrant. Third, if your firearms are not in the safe, they are in use! Voila!
 
T[/B]he Judge I spoke to said unless it was appealed, and the Ontario case was not apparently, the decision would be settled law. It would be rare that another Judge would no respect the decision if all the facts were the same ie locked metal cabinet. He was quite clear when he said rare meant never going to happen. I suspect the reason the decision was not appealed was due to there being no reason to appeal it on such a small matter. I had a representative of the Alberta CFO office try to tell me you needed a trigger lock on guns stored in a safe, which was wrong and I told her so. The CFO employees are clerks, while pleasant in the main to deal with, are not executive material. My experience with the RCMP has been they have a lot bigger fish to fry than worrying about where and how your guns are stored.

Take Care

Bob

There were some machineguns involved. Would that be a small matter? Perhaps there were other reasons that the decision was not appealed.
 
...Do not be so afraid. No one will come to check your house for that. First, they would need someone to report you. Second, they would need a warrant. Third, if your firearms are not in the safe, they are in use! Voila!

Or, a Firearms Officer could ask to make an appointment to do an inspection.
 
There were some machineguns involved. Would that be a small matter? Perhaps there were other reasons that the decision was not appealed.

The decision had nothing to do with machine guns. The decision dealt with the definition of a safe. The Judge ruled the metal cabinet the guns were stored in was a safe. End of story. I can only imagine how much interest the Supreme Court of Canada has when it comes to defining what a "safe" is.

You would think by these threads gun storage inspections was the primary function of our various police departments and they were occurring daily without warning. Is the PAL test an open book exam these days with a tutor as an assistant?

Take Care

Bob
 
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