Why would your firearms even come to question if you were pulled over? Let alone what would cause them to ask to see your att. If it works for you and that's what you want to do then all the power too you .
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Why would your firearms even come to question if you were pulled over? Let alone what would cause them to ask to see your att. If it works for you and that's what you want to do then all the power too you .
oh sorry I thought the OP was asking for opinions
After reading this thread I realize what i'm reading is the result of bullying and the resulting fear. There is no reason to lock your ammo separately or go to ridiculous ends to satisfy something that is beyond the law. The was some talk about it I half expect to read about guns loading their own magazines and going on a shooting rampage. If you feel so worried about getting pulled over and hassled for following the law you should write a letter to your MP and detail how harassed and scared you are. It's not right that we feel so concerned that we are going so far beyond an already ridiculous law.
Forest1488
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Rode my bike to the range once this past summer. Pistol trigger locked in a locked case inside my backpack. Bought ammo at the range simply to reduce weight when cycling. Sunny weather, got some exercise, threw some lead down the range, awesome day. Plan on doing it more this summer. If I did bring ammo, I would not have locked it up.
If a soft case is good enough for your AR its good enough for your handgun and if retailers sell them I'd trust them more than any self appointed experts on a forum. The fact of the matter is you only ever need to show that you made a reasonably effort to comply with the law. Look how this stuff is shipped by retailers, zip ties! People are fooling themselves if they think they add any extra security by using a hard case. Both can be broken into with a screwdriver in about a second and a half as most cant take a proper full size padlock. Same goes for trigger locks, hack saw = 60 sec. We keep forgetting this is supposed to be about safety not security. Keep junior from playing with it while your watching the game downstairs, that is what all the rules were put in place for. My range ammo container and my non-restricteds are locked/ trigger locked when I travel even though they don't need to be, solely because they need to be locked when I get home and leave them un-attended.
I called the CFP 1-800-731-4000 and inquired about soft case restricted transport. The reply was this is not advised unless the area where the firearm is kept is locked and constructed of a material that would be difficult to cut to gain access to the restricted firearm inside. It was stated there are some kevlar bags that meet this requirement but most high denier rated range bags would not. Just sharing what I was told.
I'll admit I do the absolute minimum the law requires. For restricted firearms I trigger lock, and put in a locked case, sometimes that locked case is the range bag. The range bag will have loaded mags in it sometimes too in the mag pouch.
This, according to the law, is legal. The firearms are unloaded.
This, according to the law, is legal. The firearms are unloaded.
I've always felt the grey area was done on purpose to allow charges to be laid and the courts to figure it out so it pays to be cautious. .
Aside from this, I transport my restricted and prohibited handguns to and from the range in a pad locked tool box stored out of sight in the vehicle. . Trigger locks on. . The box is large enough for 3 handguns and a few boxes of ammo. . Everything is locked and double locked. . One thing I pay close attention to is making certain the trigger locks have the cylinders turned back to the lock position. . This can be an easy mistake as the key can be removed in the unlocked position and when both sides of the trigger lock is pushed together it won't remain in the locked position if the cylinder is not returned to the locking position. .
Aside from this, I transport my restricted and prohibited handguns to and from the range in a pad locked tool box stored out of sight in the vehicle. . Trigger locks on. . The box is large enough for 3 handguns and a few boxes of ammo. . Everything is locked and double locked. . One thing I pay close attention to is making certain the trigger locks have the cylinders turned back to the lock position. . This can be an easy mistake as the key can be removed in the unlocked position and when both sides of the trigger lock is pushed together it won't remain in the locked position if the cylinder is not returned to the locking position. .
Firearms double locked in a hard case, ammo is in a range bag separate, but not locked. I would really like a soft range bag for transporting AR's but I guess I just cant bring myself to "risk" it so to speak. Better safe than sorry I guess
I have never believed that the transport laws are to protect our guns from getting stolen, its to protect them from us not us from them, it makes it harder or more time consuming for us to get excess to them. If I was a thief and broke into someone's car and seen a gun case the last thing I would be concerned with is if its in a soft case or hard case or how hard it will be to get into, it would be under my arm and I'd be gone and get into it later away from the scene of the crime in my own time and than it would matter not what kind of case it was in.
I agree 100%. The laws are not there to protect you. It's to 'protect' everyone else from you, so to speak. Free country and all that, laws state what you cannot do. "We said you can't do that!", worded as vaguely as possible so charges can be laid when no law, and certainly no spirit of safety, has been broken.
As to my transport, pistols are in an aluminum case I picked up from Crappy Tire with locking latches. A combo trigger lock adorns the trigger guard. Empty magazines are stored with the case. Any that I've filled at home go in the ammo can, which I typically do not lock but it's separated from the firearms.
Why do you think that?
It that the same common sense that some folks want to make more gun laws with?
I always prepare my guns and ammo the day before and everything stay in the restroom for the night (I go early to the shooting range), so with the kids around it's common sense for me to have the ammo locked in a ammo box.
About the folks wanted more laws : it is so funny to see how you guys are trying to align the people's comments...., and NO is the answer.
I doubt it. The problem is the laws and rules were written too quickly by bureaucrats that did not have a good handle on how they would be implemented and what they actually required of the average gun owner. No one really wants to tackle because it hasn't proven to be a huge problem, and every time you open things up there is incompatible pressure from both sides (i.e. A political loser). The lazy way out is to let the courts resolve it.
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Restricteds are trigger locked in a locked pelican case, unloaded of course. Nr are trigger locked in a soft case, ammo in either my range box or an ammo can depending on the amount I bring. If it's just pistols I'm bringing, mags are loaded before I leave home and are in the same ammo can. I don't lock my ammo up, I don't feel its nessessary.
