restriction rationale
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Those particular carbines are restricted because of their barrel lengths - under 18 1/2". Thirty odd years ago, there was a spate of armed robberies using M-1 carbines (some converted to full auto, others cut down). In a rational response to the use of these firearms by armed robbers, the 18 1/2" law was brought in. The law was obviously successful, because there have been no armed robberies since.
They look BAD. And EVIL. And they scare panty waisted liberal rug munching latte sipping welfare sucking tree hugging NDP voting commie retards. Good enough reason for you? - dan
''they look bad''?A marlin camp rifle or a ruger PC9 doesn't ''look''any where as closely resembling a military assault rifle as a non restricted SKS,or a ''black rifle''.If the restricted catagory is based solely on barrel length-would permenately attaching a barrel extension[ ie: flash guard]qualify for reassessing the ''restricted'' catagory to ''non restricted'' ?
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No. At one time it was acceptable, but no longer is.
The carbines would have to be rebarrelled.
There is an alternate method of welding on an extension, and then boring out the barrel and installing a full length sleeve, but rebarrelling is easier.
The carbines would have to be rebarrelled.
There is an alternate method of welding on an extension, and then boring out the barrel and installing a full length sleeve, but rebarrelling is easier.
It's too bad Ruger or Marlin couldn't just make a "Canadian version" of one of these carbines with a 19 or 20 inch barrel. (HINT HINT)
Yeah, they're all working in Banff, hugging trees and communing with nature. - dan
I have a 410 that only has a 12" barrel.......and it is legal cause it came from the factory like that.
Now if I cut my Cooey 410 barrel down to 12", I'd get sent to jail.
Go figure Canada's gun laws......(refer to what Dan B. said earlier)
Now if I cut my Cooey 410 barrel down to 12", I'd get sent to jail.
Go figure Canada's gun laws......(refer to what Dan B. said earlier)
Yeah, that's why they grandfathered all the FAs. The M1 made the list because it was a very common (it was cheap) weapon for criminals and bike gangs in ON and QC. Ergo, it must be really, really bad. - dan
The point was that if they made the barrel 2 inches longer it WOULDN'T be restricted due to barrel length...
You're probably right about the market thing. Or maybe it's a case of nobody thought of it. I read somewhere that some of the US handgun manufacturers made versions intended solely for the Canadian market with barrel length increased just enough over 4 inches to keep them out of prohibited status. I'd be willing to bet that there's a bigger Canadian market for a non-restricted 9mm semi-auto carbine than there was for any handgun, ever. But it probably never happen.
But anyway this is an internet forum - reality doesn't live here at the best of times - so whats the problem with dreaming out loud once in a while??
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I just can't understand if barrel length is the sole reason for the restricted catagory-why permently attaching a flash restricter wouldn't be acceptable to comply with the law.A case could be made as in using shotgun magazine plugs to restrict the number of shells to the legal limit.
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Shotgun magazine plugs are acceptable for hunting regulations, not for the Firearms Act.
Barrel extensions were acceptable, but no longer are. This is simply because the folks who make up the rules said so. They changed their minds. This was not a matter of OIC, legislation, it was simply a matter of interpretation over what determines the length of a barrel. You don't have to understand it. But barrel length is the sole reason that the Marlin Camp Carbine, the Ruger PC9, the Beretta, etc. are restricted. Rebarrel them, and they become non-restricted.
Barrel extensions were acceptable, but no longer are. This is simply because the folks who make up the rules said so. They changed their minds. This was not a matter of OIC, legislation, it was simply a matter of interpretation over what determines the length of a barrel. You don't have to understand it. But barrel length is the sole reason that the Marlin Camp Carbine, the Ruger PC9, the Beretta, etc. are restricted. Rebarrel them, and they become non-restricted.
