Reticle "turned" 3-5 degrees while shooting.

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Mounted a Falcon Menace 1.5-5 x 30 IR scope in ARMS22 throw lever LOW rings in an M14.ca scope mount on my 2009 Poly M14 and headed out to zero it in.

25m out, it took about 5 shots to get the windage / left to right dialed in. Stepped back to 100m to figure out the elevation which took about another 5-10 shots. Pause between shots would be maybe 10 seconds max.

Once I had it dialed to the point where I felt the rest was up to the shooter, I checked all allen screws for tightness and everything was tight.

10 minutes later I started shooting again and my zero seemed way off with everything 6-8 inches to the left. I was shooting prone and was not pulling them 8" left, so I was a bit puzzled, but I adjusted windage and started hitting the mark for about another 20 rounds.

Paused again, reloaded some more mags with various brands of 150 grain Hunting ammo (to this point it had all been 150 grain Fedral FMJ ammo) in hopes of finding which soft point ammo my rifle likes.

Fired 3x Winchester 150 grain Power Max, not on paper.
Fired 3x Remington 150 grain Express, also not on paper.
Scratching my head, I fired another 5x of the 150 grain FMJ and still nothing on paper.

Checked everything for tightness, all good.

Walked up to see what was going on from 25m again, when I noticed that the reticle / crosshairs had turned about 3-5 degrees counterclockwise, but the scope itself had not twisted.

Packed up the rifle and spent the rest of Thanskgiving Monday pretending to listen to our dinner guests while I was secretly stewing and wondering WTF had gone wrong?

Has anyone ever had a lense come lose in the scope tube and twist? This is my first scope I have ever bought / zeroed from scratch.

Thanks for reading.
 
Might have to be a warranty repair. IIRC AllenGunWorks is no longer the distributor for the Falcon line. I believe it's SFRC, a board sponsor here. I could be wrong.

Hope this helps,
Barney
 
Thanks Barney, it came from another CGN dealer that I'm sure will help once if I contact them directly. Have you ever seen a lense spin in the tube before?

This is why I own 2x M14's, good'ol iron sights.
 
IIRC, the crosshairs generally are wires suspended to make a crosshair and they have become loose and shifted to one side or the other.
I've had this happen before with Bushnell and Burris (the Philipine made Pentax version I think) rifle scopes. I no longer own either one now.
 
had it happen on one bushnell which was the result of a fall and a major thumping of the scope against a rock.also had it happen on another scope but the retical turns when you move the varible power ring,turn power up and crosshairs turn.when you turn power back down sometimes they turn back sometimes not.
 
Any piece of equipment, of any make, can fail.
The response of dealer/distributor/manufacturer is important.
My 1.5-5 also failed - something came loose internally. Unfortunately this was during the walkback zeroing at NSCC.
Fortunately I had another upper, although its zeros were not refined. This did cost points during the deliberate stages at 2/3/4/500m.

I contacted the current distributor, and sent it to them. They have had it for a month. No response to report so far.

Warrantees are interesting things.
Sometimes items are repaired, sometimes replaced. A replacement warrantee can mean the the object isn't worth repairing, and the mfr/distributor is simply prepared to write off a percentage of product. This is built into the pricing structure. Cheaper and easier than maintaining a repair facility. Other products are of sufficient quality to justify the time and expense of repairs.
 
tiriaq said:
My 1.5-5 also failed - something came loose internally. Unfortunately this was during the walkback zeroing at NSCC.
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Ouch! That was the first thing I thought when my zero dissapeared, "thank god it's not at 8:00am on the mound for Match #1, 90 minutes from home!" :D

Already contacted the CGN dealer I purchased it from, who I have no doubt will take care of me. Shipping it back today, likely hunting with irons next month. Ok by me.
 
MauserGDog... One thing is for sure... you are darn good with the iron sights after all those rounds put downrange with the ORA Service Rifle matches! You are no doubt very confident! :D

Cheers,
Barney
 
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