REV Division IDPA

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Thinking about dippimg my foot in the pool and try revolver in IDPA. Currently shoot SSP, just cause I like a challenge and like to have fun, I'd like to try to classify in REV. Any tips from guys/gals that shoot revolver now to practise to make it not so laughable? LOL.

Thanks in advance
 
Well........referring to it as 'laughable' is probably not the best start.....

John

Meaning so that my first go at a match ain't so laughable...so it'll only be slightly laughable. I actually shoot with a great bunch of guys who don't take things too seriously though. No diss intended with my "laughable" comment.
 
I would only be interested in shooting IDPA with a revolver. I'm more accurate with one, and I think they're fun. Are 5" barrels still allowed in IDPA Canada? You can't tell me a 5" L frame is harder to conceal than a 4.25" N frame.
 
We have a lot of people shoot revolver at our club. Esp women and the prohib class guys. The ladies use Rugers or S&W L frames shooting .38Spl. I have to say describing a 6" hip carried revolver as a concealed firearm really stretches the definition!

Anyways, to not look laughable with a revolver...not just for IDPA.
Make sure you have a good holster and speedloader pouch. Also figure out and practice where you carry the speedloader pouches that works for you. Do you like loading with your right or left hand? Try both and develop a way that works then stick with it.
Then practice dry firing in DA a lot! A trigger job will help. Learn to feel the release point in a DA pull to speed up your time between shots.
 
We have a lot of people shoot revolver at our club. Esp women and the prohib class guys. The ladies use Rugers or S&W L frames shooting .38Spl. I have to say describing a 6" hip carried revolver as a concealed firearm really stretches the definition!

Anyways, to not look laughable with a revolver...not just for IDPA.
Make sure you have a good holster and speedloader pouch. Also figure out and practice where you carry the speedloader pouches that works for you. Do you like loading with your right or left hand? Try both and develop a way that works then stick with it.
Then practice dry firing in DA a lot! A trigger job will help. Learn to feel the release point in a DA pull to speed up your time between shots.

Thanks...it's funny how reloading practise is crucial whether it's semi-auto or revolver. So basically get the gear and practise, practise, practise everything. I remember doing that when I started with IDPA (and still do) with my SFP for the muscle memory on everything.
 
Absolutely! Practice till you can do it in your sleep. Then shoot matches. A lot of people turn to goo the second the buzzer goes.
The biggest hindrance is emptying your cases and reloading without dumping all the rounds on the ground when you are being timed!
There's a huge difference in the manual of arms between a revolver and a semi. Don't confuse the two under pressure.
 
Still brushing up on the rules regarding revolvers. Correct me if I'm wrong...is 4.25 from cylinder facing to muzzle the measurement for Stock and Enhanced revolver? Also what is an "L" frame versus an "N" frame?
 
Still brushing up on the rules regarding revolvers. Correct me if I'm wrong...is 4.25 from cylinder facing to muzzle the measurement for Stock and Enhanced revolver? Also what is an "L" frame versus an "N" frame?

S&W names their frames according to size. The L- frame was designed as their bigger medium framed revolver built for constant .357 loads. It was an improvement on their early K frames. The new K frames are supposed to be able to withstand .357 better now.
The N frame is their largest revolver frame till the current X frames ( the 460 and 500).
You don't need a N frame for IDPA.
And I believe you are correct in the barrel length measurement. Or is it from the forcing cone?
 
Come to the dark side my friend, its a wonderful feeling shooting
a wheel gun.
Practice your reloads thats where you will save the most time.
 
Come to the dark side my friend, its a wonderful feeling shooting
a wheel gun.
Practice your reloads thats where you will save the most time.

Practise reloads, dryfire in DA...yes sir so I have heard. It's okay I like dry fire practising when I'm not live firing, I'm weird that way. LOL
 
welcome to the dark side for sure

only other advice is slow down and shoot all down zeros - you dont have enough ammo for make up shots
also you cannot practice your reloads enough

Also Ammo is important for a quick reload you need a round nose or tapered bullet with a strong roll crimp so there are no edges to catch on the cylinder - also cylinder chamfering is almost a must

Where abouts are you located?
 
I would only be interested in shooting IDPA with a revolver. I'm more accurate with one, and I think they're fun. Are 5" barrels still allowed in IDPA Canada? You can't tell me a 5" L frame is harder to conceal than a 4.25" N frame.

8.2.5 Revolver Division (REV) ...
8.2.5.3 Stock and Enhanced Revolver requirements: ...
8.2.5.3.3 Barrel length of 4.25” (108 mm) or less.

Wheelguns are a LOT of fun. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Mastering the reload will be the key to speed.
 
Thinking about dippimg my foot in the pool and try revolver in IDPA. Currently shoot SSP, just cause I like a challenge and like to have fun, I'd like to try to classify in REV. Any tips from guys/gals that shoot revolver now to practise to make it not so laughable? LOL.

Thanks in advance

You have really only two choices of revolvers. Both are excellent. You have the Ruger GP-100 4.2" either the regular model of the more expensive Match Champion.. The Match Champion comes with a couple of nice to have features but both versions will work. The S&W 686 4.2" is your second option. I have both and there is not much sun light between either, Both will work, well. Excellent examples show up from time to time on the EE. Both are good value.

For Speedloaders Safariland 111' and Jet Loaders work well. I went with Jet loaders, others prefer the Safariland. Both work. You need four for IDPA.

Get a good belt. 1 3/4" is the maximum allowed. Revolvers are heavy.

Bladetech, Comp-Tac and Soley Canadian make good kydex holsters. Choose one.

You will need a concealment garment. While many go with a Hawaiian shirt (the godierr the better), light shirts can be difficult to manage and I would suggest a vest of some kind or a jacket that will cover your complete holster when standing in a scarecrow stance. Without some pracrtice a light shirt can get caught up in your gun in the draw and in holstering.

To compete in Canada only, we had an exemption for revolvers which allowed 5 & 6 inch guns to be shot in IDPA. This exemption was granted before Ruger introduced their GP-100 and Smith &Wesson followed suit with their 686 in a 4.2" version. For club level matches most clubs up here would not turn you away using a 5 or 6 inch revolver. For sanction matches though the restriction is 4.2" as it is in the US for all matches.

To the poster who commented on the 5" revolver. The rule is 4.25". I know you would like to play with your 6 Shot revolver from IPSC but the rule is the rule ad it has been debated long and hard for a change with no success.

To the OP go with the right equipment from the start. IDPA is great fun using a revolver. Once you have your equipment, practice your reloads and dry fire the heck out of the gun. Practice drawing from concealment. Bob Vogel has done a very good video on shooting IDPA and I would recommend it to you. With the new RB out in 2017 some of what he talks about is dated but his topics on shooting skills and shooting stages is spot on and will certainly move you along.

There is no significant rule changes for Revolver Division proposed in the 2017 RB so go to www.idpa.com and download the existing RB and read up on Revolver Division. You will see where you can place your holster and speed loader pouches.

I hope you get into IDPA and play in Revolver Division. Great fun.

Take Care

Bob
 
You have really only two choices of revolvers. Both are excellent. You have the Ruger GP-100 4.2" either the regular model of the more expensive Match Champion.. The Match Champion comes with a couple of nice to have features but both versions will work. The S&W 686 4.2" is your second option. I have both and there is not much sun light between either, Both will work, well. Excellent examples show up from time to time on the EE. Both are good value.

For Speedloaders Safariland 111' and Jet Loaders work well. I went with Jet loaders, others prefer the Safariland. Both work. You need four for IDPA.

Get a good belt. 1 3/4" is the maximum allowed. Revolvers are heavy.

Bladetech, Comp-Tac and Soley Canadian make good kydex holsters. Choose one.

You will need a concealment garment. While many go with a Hawaiian shirt (the godierr the better), light shirts can be difficult to manage and I would suggest a vest of some kind or a jacket that will cover your complete holster when standing in a scarecrow stance. Without some pracrtice a light shirt can get caught up in your gun in the draw and in holstering.

To compete in Canada only, we had an exemption for revolvers which allowed 5 & 6 inch guns to be shot in IDPA. This exemption was granted before Ruger introduced their GP-100 and Smith &Wesson followed suit with their 686 in a 4.2" version. For club level matches most clubs up here would not turn you away using a 5 or 6 inch revolver. For sanction matches though the restriction is 4.2" as it is in the US for all matches.

To the poster who commented on the 5" revolver. The rule is 4.25". I know you would like to play with your 6 Shot revolver from IPSC but the rule is the rule ad it has been debated long and hard for a change with no success.

To the OP go with the right equipment from the start. IDPA is great fun using a revolver. Once you have your equipment, practice your reloads and dry fire the heck out of the gun. Practice drawing from concealment. Bob Vogel has done a very good video on shooting IDPA and I would recommend it to you. With the new RB out in 2017 some of what he talks about is dated but his topics on shooting skills and shooting stages is spot on and will certainly move you along.

There is no significant rule changes for Revolver Division proposed in the 2017 RB so go to www.idpa.com and download the existing RB and read up on Revolver Division. You will see where you can place your holster and speed loader pouches.

I hope you get into IDPA and play in Revolver Division. Great fun.

Take Care

Bob

Thanks Bob...in IDPA now classified in SSP and ESP. But revolvers intrigued me because shooting semi auto wasn't hard enough (insert sarcasm here) LOL. But seriously just to add challenge and more fun to the "game". I'll probably still shoot mostly semi but would at least like to classify in REV at least to begin with. Thanks for the great advise.

Cheers
Ray
 
You have really only two choices of revolvers. Both are excellent. You have the Ruger GP-100 4.2" either the regular model of the more expensive Match Champion.. The Match Champion comes with a couple of nice to have features but both versions will work. The S&W 686 4.2" is your second option. I have both and there is not much sun light between either, Both will work, well. Excellent examples show up from time to time on the EE. Both are good value.

There are more options out there than that, but yes, those tend to be popular. I shoot a S&W Model 66. And if I could find a S&W 625 in 4.25" and for less than a gazillion bucks, I would try that too.
 
There are more options out there than that, but yes, those tend to be popular. I shoot a S&W Model 66. And if I could find a S&W 625 in 4.25" and for less than a gazillion bucks, I would try that too.

Who else makes a revolver that will fit and still be legal in Canada? There maybe the odd K Frame that would make the limit and of course if you have prohib status any revolver with a 4.5" barrel or less would fit the bill. Without prohib status I don't see any other readily available option for the OP. I see Smith makes their K Frame 66 with a 4.25" barrel and their Model 69 as well and their 329PD. I have never see the latter three in a match though. The K Frame would work but I would think somewhat harder to load than the L Frame guns.

The 329 shooting 44 Special would be interesting. Can you get moon clips for 44 Special? I would assume someone makes speedloaders for the gun.

Take Care

Bob
 
I have seen a 66 used in IDPA. Personal preference, I guess.

The cylinder doesn't swing out as far as the GP100, making reloading a little tighter space-wise, but I love the gun. There's no doubt that the GP100 and 686 are what you usually see in REV division, but they aren't the only choices.
 
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