So, if I understand Winnipeg Toymaker correctly, loading something like a TSX, Sirrocco or a Nosler Solid Base upside down would be perfectly legal, regardless that the bullet would actually be much tougher than a military FMJ.
Reversing FMJ bullets
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This is straight out of the Manitoba Hunting regs,( http://www .gov.mb.ca/conservation/wildlife/hunting/biggame/firearms.html ) there is nothing mentioned about possession of FMJ projectiles being illegal.Just that you can't be in possession of cartridges loaded with said bullets.
As far as turning the bullet around not changing what it is, it definitely changes the function.Just as turning a hollow based wadcutter in a handgun round makes it a hollow point.
Take the space out of the link provided to read the whole thing.
Scott
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ok toymaker, i'll try to make this simple: FMJ's with an exposed base loaded in reverse is a JSP, a JSP loaded reversed is a FMJ.
30-30 JSP now see the little bit of lead at the tip and the rest of the lead is encased in copper.
375 FMJ, note the exposed base and the rest of the bullet is encased in copper.
so what happens when we reverse a FMJ, thats right its a JSP
30-30 JSP now see the little bit of lead at the tip and the rest of the lead is encased in copper.
375 FMJ, note the exposed base and the rest of the bullet is encased in copper.
so what happens when we reverse a FMJ, thats right its a JSP
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I don't know if their is a right or wrong answer to this question. To me it sounds like a "grey" area that would be up to the CO to decide.
To get away from the arguement, I was experimenting with my bolt action 7.62x39 and subsonic loads. I found that if the bullet is loaded into the case backwards, it stabilized better at the slow speeds. 180 gr. Hornady boat tail spitzer @980 fps. Hardly makes a bang, and shoots nice at 100 yds. It was an experiment that was different. Good luck with the banter. As a note, the reversed Hornady bullets punch holes in things just like a FMJ, cuz they now are with the bullet reversed. Eric
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Buddy when you have done some reading on the subject and have done some testing then you get to have an opinion .To think that comerrcial ammo is the end all in the world of hunting is far from the truth. Why not load some up do a side by side comparison and then you have the right to come back and spout off..........untill then STFU
funny, I guide moose and bear and hunt on my own, with friends, take noobs out. have seen the effects of propper & poor bullet construction and choices many many many times.
why not just give in to logic and use a bullet as it was designed? just because it might work doesn't mean it's smart.
funny, I guide moose and bear and hunt on my own, with friends, take noobs out. have seen the effects of propper & poor bullet construction and choices many many many times.
why not just give in to logic and use a bullet as it was designed? just because it might work doesn't mean it's smart.
The guy wants to use them to shoot grouse with his centerfire rifle. What kind of bullet construction do you suggest for shooting grouse with a .308?
The guy wants to use them to shoot grouse with his centerfire rifle. What kind of bullet construction do you suggest for shooting grouse with a .308?
180 grain PSP.
Aim for the head or neck.
Crude but effective!
A FMJ bullet loaded backwards would be a flat nosed soft point with a honkin' big boat tail. With a really light load, they would make a great grouse getter.
Better to get a Hammond Game Getter or two, though.
I gotta try the cheap FMJ backwards thing, though. Might do in a pinch.
Cheers
Trev
Ted, I hope I don't add to the confusion, but on reading your thread this morning, I went to the Manitoba hunting regulations and copied this on bullets.
Cartridges
Cartridges having a full metal cased hard point bullet (including military-type cartridges such as FMC, FMJ and TMC) may not be used by or be in the possession of a big game hunter.
This may staart the arguments all over again! Sorry. Bruce
180 grain PSP.
Aim for the head or neck.
Crude but effective!
A FMJ bullet loaded backwards would be a flat nosed soft point with a honkin' big boat tail. With a really light load, they would make a great grouse getter.
Better to get a Hammond Game Getter or two, though.
I gotta try the cheap FMJ backwards thing, though. Might do in a pinch.
Cheers
Trev
Exactly!
I use reduced charges with flat point bullets in most of my rifles for the purposes of picking up some extra grouse. I've never tried reversing a FMJ, since I always have some spare bullets lying around that I use, but the FMJ's should work fine. And since there would be a minimal amount fired, throat erosion shouldn't be a big deal.
There is more than one way to get the job done, different things interest different people.
Splatter, the bullet tended to stabilize better backwards at the low speeds I was shooting them at. Kind of like a shuttlecock in badminton.
I use the same bullet point forward for my 300 Win mag with great results.
Eric
I use the same bullet point forward for my 300 Win mag with great results.
Eric
Seems like a bunch of gun nutz can't agree on the interpretation of the law in this case so I'm not sure I'd be willing to take a chance on a bunch of lawyers coming up with the same conclusion I have
Definitly a grey area and not worth the risk IMO.
Definitly a grey area and not worth the risk IMO.
