Review : Butler Creek 25/22 "Steel Lips" Magazines

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About 15-20 years ago I got my first two Butler Creek "Steel Lips" mags for one of my Ruger 10/22's. It was the first 10/22 I ever owned and I got a few more since then... ;)

The reliability of those two Butler Creek magazines was horrendous and they would cause failures to feed and often destroy the ammo by the bolt pinching it every 3-4 rounds, to the point where I just gave up on them. I was spending more time clearing malfunctions and throwing away ammo than I was shooting. A few fellow range members at the time recommended jamming a piece of cardboard from a .22LR box in between the mag and mag well to give the Butler Creek mags the "right angle" for better feeding, but that hasn't worked very well for me either. Anyway, jamming cardboard in a mag well to make the gun run correctly is ridiculous and not at all up my alley. I'm of the opinion that something that's designed to run in a platform should run flawlessly, without this type of improvised BS mods right outta the box...!

I ended up throwing these two mags in my parts drawer in disgust and swore I'd never buy another "Butler Creek" product ever again. The BX-1 mags from Ruger ran flawlessly in the rifle, by the way. I was sold on only buying and using original Ruger mags going forward. Lesson learned.


Fast forward to last week, when I was looking to procure an extra BX-1, BX-15 or BX-25 mag or two for my 10/22 Takedown (upgraded with the Volquartsen heavy firing pin and exact edge extractor) ahead of a planned range trip. All the 10/22 mags at the store were sold out (obviously!), except one "open package" Butler Creek mag that looked suspiciously like a customer return. The sales person at the store stated that those used to be indeed quite bad, but that the company corrected their design since. Reluctantly, I bought it... half expecting another useless item that would end up in my POS gun parts drawer, lol.

The initial impressions out of the box were quite good. The plastic these mags are made of is very slick (almost feels greasy) and it goes into the 10/22 like it's oiled, just snapping right in place. Removal with the stock mag release is very easy and intuitive too, kind of feels very AK-ish. The extra long grip on the mag allows for much quicker mag swaps than the original flush BX-1 mags. The only concerning part was that the mag would "jam up" on my stainless steel 22LR snap caps and not feed right, occasionally. This did not inspire much confidence to be honest, but I needed to test the new magazine with actual brass-cased ammo at the range.


So... off to the range I went with a buddy. We fired probably 100+ rounds through that magazine (CCI Mini-Mags and Remington Golden Bullets) and the mag ran FLAWLESSLY! I was really impressed, given how very low my expectations were. The loading is actually easier on it than on the BX-1 from Ruger, as the tension is just right and it feels like an already "broken in" magazine. The only downside I suppose is that these mags cannot be disassembled for cleaning when they potentially foul up and you need to wash / submerge them in soapy water to clean, according to information online. They have a drainage hole at the bottom, so that should help in draining and drying whenever a good cleaning is needed.

Funny enough, the only malfunction I got at the range out of my 10/22 Takedown was with the original BX-1 magazine from Ruger, where a FTF on a Remington Golden Bullet caused the round to get stuck at a 45 deg angle and the bolt to shave off a part of the bullet tip. I was not expecting the BX-1 to get beaten in reliability by the Butler Creek! :oops:


Overall, I'm very impressed with this Butler Creek Steel Lips magazine. I've got an original BX-25 on the way to compare, but if the Butler Creek mags run this good, then there's no real need to pay extra or wait for "back in stock" for the original Ruger BX-25 mags.


P.S. That's our EM332 Scorpio rifles in the pictures, along with my 10/22 Takedown. Very handy little rifles and extremely reliable. I actually got better groups with the Scorpio than the 10/22, despite the shorter barrel. Worth every penny at $209 (Tenda)

All rifles were equipped with the UUQ Prince7 red dots ($70 @ Amazon), which are the Sig Sauer Romeo5 clones. Good red dots for a fraction of the cost. Some sources claim they come off the same assembly line as the Sig Romeo5 in China.


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The originals way back were all plastic and they would eventually wear out
Then the steel lips came Some work good some are finicky
Then the adjustable Tactical Innovations came

Used to have some 50 round ramline
But they only fed about 30-40 reliably
Used quite a bit but eventually sold them

Had a champion? 30 round steel lips with green follower
Never did work good for me so gave it away

Had the 50 round teardrop too
Was a PITA to load so sold it as well
Kinda wish i still had it as i now think it would be perfect for shorts
 
That's bringing back some memories

The BC 25 steel lip mags seemed so sturdy and well built yet so finicky and faulty, I think I ended up taking a hammer to the 2 or 3 I had when there was all that ban talk, not so much due to the ban more so that they were useless and taking up shelf space

I always wanted to try out the TI ones but never did, were they reliable ?

The 10 round factory rotary mags are so much better I ended up grabbing 4 or 5 extra of them to make up the difference in loaded firepower at the time
 
That's bringing back some memories

The BC 25 steel lip mags seemed so sturdy and well built yet so finicky and faulty, I think I ended up taking a hammer to the 2 or 3 I had when there was all that ban talk, not so much due to the ban more so that they were useless and taking up shelf space

I always wanted to try out the TI ones but never did, were they reliable ?

The 10 round factory rotary mags are so much better I ended up grabbing 4 or 5 extra of them to make up the difference in loaded firepower at the time

The Ruger BX-1 (10 round factory) mags are typically the default choice for absolute reliability. Which is why I was quite surprised to see my new Butler Creek 25 rounder get zero malfunctions and the BX-1 having one. It's not how I would've bet money on this going down, haha!

These days there are other companies making 22LR semis that use the same type of Ruger BX-1 pattern mag (Winchester Wildcat, Adler RF-224, Bergara BXR, etc.) but all these guns are said to function better with the Ruger BX-1 than with their OEM's own version of it. So, it seems like Ruger is still the king of the rotary .22LR magazine.


All in all, the 10/22 is a fun rifle. It's even more fun when it doesn't jam on every 3rd or 4th round due to a crappy mag, lol!

;)
 
Butler creek has been irrelevant since bx-25

They called the plastic ones “hot lips” and the ones with steel feeding lips were steel lips. Bill Ruger was famous in his time for his stance on magazines that held more than 10 rounds and “law enforcement only” mags that they sold for for the mini-14 and other firearms in the us at the time. After he turned the company over to other people things started to change.

I’m surprised butler creek still makes 10/22 mags honestly. The factory ruger ones are so much better
 
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Butler creek has been irrelevant since bx-25

They called the plastic ones “hot lips” and the ones with steel feeding lips were steel lips. Bill Ruger was famous in his time for his stance on magazines that held more than 10 rounds and “law enforcement only” mags that they sold for for the mini-14 and other firearms in the us at the time. After he turned the company over to other people things started to change.

I’m surprised butler creek still makes 10/22 mags honestly. The factory ruger ones are so much better

I agree. I've played with the Butler Creek junk yrs back as well as the Mitchell 50 rnd drum. The Mitchell one worked fine but as noted was a
slow beast to reload. When I was on gopher missions in Alberta I just loaded up the factory 10 rnd mag when needed and went back to the
massacre. I kept an extra loaded 10 rounder in me pocket for times when reaching out to 200+ yrd critters using Kentucky windage.

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I agree. I've played with the Butler Creek junk yrs back as well as the Mitchell 50 rnd drum. The Mitchell one worked fine but as noted was a
slow beast to reload. When I was on gopher missions in Alberta I just loaded up the factory 10 rnd mag when needed and went back to the
massacre. I kept an extra loaded 10 rounder in me pocket for times when reaching out to 200+ yrd critters using Kentucky windage.

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That 10/22 screams “80’s survival rifle” haha. Only thing missing is a folder and a Surefire 9p. Everyone used to trust the 10 round rotary mags over the butler creeks any day.
 
That 10/22 screams “80’s survival rifle” haha. Only thing missing is a folder and a Surefire 9p. Everyone used to trust the 10 round rotary mags over the butler creeks any day.
I actually used mine for decades before i used the factory rotaries
Pain to load manually and they dont work as nice with the loaders
 
Butler creek has been irrelevant since bx-25

They called the plastic ones “hot lips” and the ones with steel feeding lips were steel lips. Bill Ruger was famous in his time for his stance on magazines that held more than 10 rounds and “law enforcement only” mags that they sold for for the mini-14 and other firearms in the us at the time. After he turned the company over to other people things started to change.

I’m surprised butler creek still makes 10/22 mags honestly. The factory ruger ones are so much better

I agreed with you 100% before buying the new one last week. My past experience with Butler Creek Steel Lips was very unpleasant and a waste of both my time and my money.

However, like I said, the new Butler Creek ran flawlessly in my 10/22 Takedown without a single hiccup. My BX-1 on the other hand had one failure to feed, using the same gun and same ammo. What does this mean? Probably nothing, besides the fact that Butler Creek seems to have stepped up their game quite a bit since my last experience with their mags.

Maybe I just got a good one this time, not sure. However, I've been reading some folks horror stories of original Ruger BX-25 mags running like crap as well. More investigation is required and I'll most probably pick up another Butler Creek or two sometime down the line, to see how they do compared to the BX-25's.

:)
 
I ended up swapping all of mine for 10 round factory mags 15 or so years ago. They still worked fairly well but had a couple in the lot that didn’t run perfectly. I now have 8 of the 10 rounders and have my son to load them up for me. Good to hear the new ones are better.
 
Only time I've ever had problems with the Butler Creek mags was when I used their loader. It wouldn't stack the rounds properly, placing the rim behind the next round so the bolt wouldn't be able to catch the round going forward. Also a pain the ass to clear them out of the mag after that.
 
Only time I've ever had problems with the Butler Creek mags was when I used their loader. It wouldn't stack the rounds properly, placing the rim behind the next round so the bolt wouldn't be able to catch the round going forward. Also a pain the ass to clear them out of the mag after that.
Used to have some casings get a dent in them trying to load
Most of those would fail to load
Had been holding the loader flat as if it were on a table
Switched to having the mag vertical and the loader on its side
Seemed to work much better

I use a torx screwdriver for emptying the mags #10 i think
I Cut the silly coupling buttons off the mags as well
 
I dug out my 10 round Butler Creek to try out with a new 10/22 I built.

Could not insert them on a closed bolt, as the cartridge would get shoved down and then not present itself properly for feeding.

Maybe they're dirty, or worn.

I like the rotary ones, save that I have a hard time getting a couple of them out, which was why I liked the short stick ones.

I see extended bases are made for the rotary ones to aid in removal. I have some 3/4" plywood. Perhaps I'll saw some pucks up, paint them, and glue them to mine (I don't have one of those fancy 3D printers, but I do have a table saw and belt sander)
 
I got a few of the steel lipz when I got that ADLER short barrelled 10/22 ish 'clone'. Those BC have run perfectly, along with the 2x10/10 flush fit, that came with the rifle.{not Ruger} I also got a Pro-Mag 'copy' of those magz, last time I ran that one, I had one f2f. I do not recommend pro mag generally, but that butler creek looking one is OK, I think its the old style, no steel lipz {& it's cheaper}.
 
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