rifle caliber in southern Ontario, 7mm or 270?

AP said:
You guys are too clever for your own good.... They don't allow the .270W because it is 'close' nor do they chose to turn a blind eye. They allow it because the .270w is under the specified .275 caliber max. referenced in the regs and therefore legal. If you care to check you will find the the barrel specs for a .270w call for a BORE diameter of .270in. and a GROOVE diameter of .277in. ... Since caliber can be either measured by bore OR groove diameter..... The .270W is legit!!!! This has been answered before.
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Yet the bullets are definitely .277" in diameter. It's a stupid regulation that does nothing to improve safety, but I don't expect any different from Ontario.
 
Neither does the headstamp on the cartridge case, or the cartridge designation stamped on the rifle barrel. The 275 Rigby is supposedly legal, even though it is larger than .275 caliber.

I have it in writing from the ministry that a 275 Rigby is so stamped is legal even though it's a 7 mm.
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stubblejumper said:
Neither does the headstamp on the cartridge case, or the cartridge designation stamped on the rifle barrel. The 275 Rigby is supposedly legal, even though it is larger than .275 caliber.
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You are correct... it is the 'BORE' diameter (.270) that is used to establish the caliber of the 270W! But keep up the terrific internal ballistics forensic work here.... I am sure with more perseverance you can convince the MNR to lower the restriction to .22LR!!!! In the interim I gave you the explanation for the 270W... I don't know anything about the rigby cartridge..
 
So what if you were shooting say a .30-06 loaded with a Sabotted or Paperpatched sub .275 caliber bullet. What say you now oh Illogical regulations of the mnr? Would that not qualify as a rifle that fires a bullet within the parameters of the regulation? The regs say you cant use "a rifle of greater caliber than .275, that is not a muzzleloading gun..." which is a bit ambiguous I think.
 
skokie said:
So what if you were shooting say a .30-06 loaded with a Sabotted or Paperpatched sub .275 caliber bullet. What say you now oh Illogical regulations of the mnr? Would that not qualify as a rifle that fires a bullet within the parameters of the regulation? The regs say you cant use "a rifle of greater caliber than .275, that is not a muzzleloading gun..." which is a bit ambiguous I think.
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No go, as it's the rifle that's restricted to .275, not the projectile.

However, shotguns and muzzle loaders get a free pass. So you could have a scoped .410 shotgun with a rifled barrel shooting jacketed bullets out of brass shells, and you're good to go.
 
Here's a perfectly legal way to hunt with .308 in southern Ontario. And yes, fmj is also legal for hunting in Ontario, so you're good to go.


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I would buy a varmint calibre for now (.223 for example) and in the event I was to go large game hunting I would then buy a .30 cal of some description (3006 or 308 for example).

270 will wreck a coyote. If you want the pelt for anything it will be useless.
 
passer544 said:
That's a weird law. I wonder why the caliber distinction. Not like a 44-40 is more powerful than a 270 lol
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Because back int he days of yore (when everyone was supposed to be smarter and have common sense, I thought?) some nitwit didnt like the thought of a bunch of people using recently surplused Lee Enfields and FMJs for hunting so they picked the next common sized cartridge down (270WIN) as the maximum.

This law alone proves that even our grandfathers had to deal with people in power who knew nothing about firearms and just made laws up as they went.
 
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