yes, that's how I learned it: point blank range is the distance at which you don't need to compensate for the drop to hit the vitals.
Rifle defections change.
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yes, that's how I learned it: point blank range is the distance at which you don't need to compensate for the drop to hit the vitals.
There was an earlier .375 cartridge with a belt, probably on a par power-wise with the 9x57. The .375 and the .275 H&H Magnum's both came out in the same year, so it's difficult to say which was really first. Sentiment tends to favour the .375.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Ahh, but the meat only has to go downhill, where the rifle has to go up hill then back down, preferably without damage. In the mountains its easier just to kick the meat off a cliff and let gravity do the work, where flatlanders use quads, boats, and snowmobiles, to reduces the struggle. The true benefit of ultralight rifles, even when chambered for mild cartridges, is the recoil is sharp and fast so you don't loose the your recoil management skills when taking a break from shooting your larger rifles.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
While I'm not entirely sure about belted cartridges, many small arm terms and developments first came about with artillery. The newest belted cartridge I'm aware of is Freedom Arm's .500 Wyoming, a revolver cartridge that uses a belt rather than a rim to keep the diameter of the gun's 5 shot cylinder manageable, despite the large caliber. Maximum ordinate is the term first coined by artillerymen to describe the maximum height a shell would reach in it's trajectory before descending, which later became an important factor in establishing the maximum point blank range in riflery. RCBS used the term in their early ballistics program. The terms maximum ordinate and point blank are closely related. In order to determine the point blank range as the extent of the range at which a target might be engaged without having to adjust for trajectory, the maximum ordinate must first be known. The term maximum point blank range is not a new one, and came about with the advent of smokeless powder and jacketed bullets, and was possibly used earlier than that, when extremely accurate, long range sniper rifles where employed by both sides of the US Civil War. Another idea that was developed for the artillery was the driving bands on shells, to reduce friction in the bore. This has since been applied to some mono-metal bullets. I can see in the future where rifles will dispense with rifled barrels, which can use as much as 30% of the propellant energy to spin the bullet, and bullets will look more like the darts fired in 120 mm smooth bore guns mounted on modern tanks. Velocities in excess of 5000 fps will be possible.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
You're a brave man. My .375 Ultra in an 8.5 pound rifle with a decelerator is quite enough for a long session.
billbmcleod
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- Back very close to Bruce County
If I shot a deer at point blank range I would be inferring I almost left powder burns. Just the way we always thought of it. But I do understand the other interpretation, just never heard it before.
My 460 weatherby is lighter then that. No brake either.
Not much lighter. 8 pounds 6oz
Ive only shot it standing, off hand haha. Scared of the bench or prone
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Its not so much a fear of recoil, as it is being able to outrun your scope with a rifle that generates about 100 ft-ibs more recoil energy than a .300 magnum, based on the original factory ballistics of a 500 at 2700. I found that the most powerful rifle I could hold prone for 3 rounds was my Ruger #1 .416 Rigby loaded to give a 350 gr bullet 2850 fps. That's not even in the same ball park as a .460. I haven't fired my .458 prone either, not because the recoil is particularly frightening, but because of the way it recoils. The muzzle points skyward to about 40 degrees; with a short stocked rifle, which is my preference, that's a scope cut waiting to happen. While there are those who would opine that this limits the usefulness of the rifle, I can't imagine a situation where I might be called upon to shoot from prone with a .458. In contrast, the .416 recoiled straight back with little muzzle rise.
Boomer;
Something that works for me to mitigate muzzle rise with a M70 in .458 Win/Lott is to slide my left hand a little farther ahead and grab the whole fore end tip instead. My thumb and index finger actually wrap around the barrel.That was mostly an adaptation to a hand injury but it had the net effect of driving the recoil straight back with little rise at all. Great for rapid fire exercises and the real thing.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
That should work, except my stumpy spindly little arms won't let me reach that far forward. Its actually a modification that doesn't cost anything, next time I have that thing out I'll give it a try.
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Burned fingers? My barrel gets f'n hot on a rapid fire.
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
But did anyone see my clip? Where's.that magazine for.something to read in the.outhouse.
