Rifle fence crossing question
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canadian hunter312
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Zero experience and only thoughts, but you're trying to educate us on how dangerous they apparently are? That's foolish.
After 15 years of carrying a loaded crossbow in the bush, I would have stopped carrying a loaded crossbow by now if there was even a hint of it being dangerous. Thanks for the advice backed by real world experience though.
Good Lord, it's not rocket science.
I have three safeties, my brain, muzzle control and a damn switch on the gun, pay attention to that switch!
Any one that is not capable of wandering around in the bush with a cartridge in the chamber should just stay home, if your so terrified of shooting your own or your buddies pincky toe off with a firearm because you have one up the spout tells me you don't know ####.
flame away, i don't care.
I have three safeties, my brain, muzzle control and a damn switch on the gun, pay attention to that switch!
Any one that is not capable of wandering around in the bush with a cartridge in the chamber should just stay home, if your so terrified of shooting your own or your buddies pincky toe off with a firearm because you have one up the spout tells me you don't know ####.
flame away, i don't care.
Nothing wrong with hunting with a round in the chamber, trigger&muzzle discipline is the key.
OP: i know you're looking for the "rifle are dangerous textbook answer" but personnaly, rifle is loaded on safe and if I had absolutly no choice but to climb a fence instead of going around, I would simply sling the rifle to my back and carry on.
Not even putting a flame suit on for all the "rifles are dangerous" or "you unsafe bastard think of the children" comments that will follow
I've held back on saying it but this is spot on. If you are scared of the gun that means you are incompetent and have not built your skills up enough to a level where you should be confident. Stay home and practice.
Interesting that they don't want you to lay the firearm on the ground these days. That was a requirement in the dozen or so safety courses I've been willing and then was forced to take over my lifetime. I don't want to be reactionary, but if you can't keep dirt out of your barrel in these situations without putting a glove over the muzzle, you perhaps shouldn't be carrying one around. Things like that are dreamed up by people sitting at a desk with their eyes closed. Mind you, if the situation actually called for it, I would do it.
That is BTW one of the many things I've always liked about hunting with a double barrel. When for instance I do one of my trademark face plants due to hidden berry canes or vines or ice or whatever, it's easy to break the gun open and check to see if the barrels got plugged.
That is BTW one of the many things I've always liked about hunting with a double barrel. When for instance I do one of my trademark face plants due to hidden berry canes or vines or ice or whatever, it's easy to break the gun open and check to see if the barrels got plugged.
Due to strict training by the farmers I grew up surrounded by, with a potential boot to the ass penalty involved, I hardly ever climb over a barbed wire fence, there's almost always a way to go through or under one if you're had the proper boot induced training. And I remember standing in the woods and tracing the progress of a trio of city hunters around the woodlots by the sound of screeching wire as they climbed over fences, they might as well have been banging pots and pans.
I couldn't agree more.
Cross at the post ( unless you are a fat Old man of course)... check to make sure the staples are in good. Climb it like a ladder, the wires won't make noise... would seem like a Sodbuster to do such a silly thing as boot a kid in the ass.
You might find fault in such a method...if you are a course instructor.
Zero experience and only thoughts, but you're trying to educate us on how dangerous they apparently are? That's foolish.
After 15 years of carrying a loaded crossbow in the bush, I would have stopped carrying a loaded crossbow by now if there was even a hint of it being dangerous. Thanks for the advice backed by real world experience though.
Now there isn't even a hint of danger? Lol ok then...
No more than a rifle or shotgun, walking with a loaded crossbow is not a dangerous thing.
So, you have a problem with a crossbow that is cocked, you have an issue with a rifle that is loaded, sounds like you should quit hunting, at some point you have one of these happening and something might just happen in that moment that you are ready to shoot.
Time to take up wildlife photography.
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might be some regional bias but the whole loaded not loaded discussion comes up on a regular basis.
Personally where I hunt there is a lot of spot and stalk, so lots of time to chamber a round. I prefer rifles that have a detachable mag, this makes unloading and loading easier when truck hunting.
there are some here that will argue that their way of hunting is the only way. Years back there was one poster here that insisted that in their camp no slings were allowed, rifle were always carried loaded and at the ready, and if you were doing it any differently you were doing it wrong. Sometimes it gets as bad as the discussions about wearing blaze orange and red.
Oh and back to the OP, for the test you do it exactly how the manual says, no common sense, just exactly like the manual. After that do what you like.
Personally where I hunt there is a lot of spot and stalk, so lots of time to chamber a round. I prefer rifles that have a detachable mag, this makes unloading and loading easier when truck hunting.
there are some here that will argue that their way of hunting is the only way. Years back there was one poster here that insisted that in their camp no slings were allowed, rifle were always carried loaded and at the ready, and if you were doing it any differently you were doing it wrong. Sometimes it gets as bad as the discussions about wearing blaze orange and red.
Oh and back to the OP, for the test you do it exactly how the manual says, no common sense, just exactly like the manual. After that do what you like.
Cameron SS
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Ground Zero
I was up at hunt camp this weekend listening to the ole smart fellers tellin stores of the days of yore, and of how crazy all the OTHER hunting groups are, shooting at shadows, shooting after legal hunting time, shooting at people in blaze orange, doing mag dumps at bounding dear only to hit them 3 or 4 times but not even try to recover the game, etc etc.
And yet here we have the safety sallies who aren't even confident to climb a fence or carry a gun with a round in the chamber.
For all the talk of guns, and gangs, and mass shooters, and mentally ill and violent crime, the only time I get nervous around gun related activities is in the woods during hunting season, and only because of the stories. I've seen precious little ACTUAL evidence of these assumed problems. To listen to some of the folk here you'd think that hard armour and trauma kits would be standard kit for hunters.
Absolutely amazing to me that something so simple as crossing a fence safely can be made into rocket science by so many. Most of you confirm the fact that of all the human senses, common sense is the least used. To the OP, your question was adequately answered in the first page of posts, that plus common sense to the particular situation at hand will keep you safe. Your course conductor will teach you a method that is acceptable to the passing of the course, learn it and use it during your exam.
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Back in the day when the forest wuzz strong, well chit.........run tuh the awbstuckle, taws the ker-pow in the air
slightly forward, one arm leep over the fence and ketch the ker-pow wid t'uther arm.
Common cents folks.
Know yer limits, play within it.
slightly forward, one arm leep over the fence and ketch the ker-pow wid t'uther arm.
Common cents folks.
Know yer limits, play within it.
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- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
The moment I step out of the truck I have a round in the chamber and the safety on, trigger and muzzle discipline is strictly observed. If you can’t do these simple steps to stay safe then maybe walking through the woods with a gun isn’t for you.
This is the same with the wife and a couple friends I hunt with. We are all on th same page, proper handling of a loaded gun is first and foremost. The two friends I hunt with have been longtime range buddies and we are all familiar with each other’s safe handling, I trust them totally to know where there trigger finger is and where their muzzle is pointed and they trust me to do the same. I’m a lefty, so I always stand on my partners right when walking so their rifle is pointed down and away from me to their left and mine is pointed down and away from them to my right.
I unload my gun if I need to safely navigate an obstacle or climb into a stand or I step farther than arms length away from it, otherwise it stays loaded till I get back to my truck or quad.
This is the same with the wife and a couple friends I hunt with. We are all on th same page, proper handling of a loaded gun is first and foremost. The two friends I hunt with have been longtime range buddies and we are all familiar with each other’s safe handling, I trust them totally to know where there trigger finger is and where their muzzle is pointed and they trust me to do the same. I’m a lefty, so I always stand on my partners right when walking so their rifle is pointed down and away from me to their left and mine is pointed down and away from them to my right.
I unload my gun if I need to safely navigate an obstacle or climb into a stand or I step farther than arms length away from it, otherwise it stays loaded till I get back to my truck or quad.
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