Rifle Myths and Mysteries

[dan belisle]

When I was a kid in the early 1960s I heard my dad's friends talking abut the 280 Ross as if it were the hammer of Thor, shooting and killing at impossible ranges.

I guess there was a hint of truth in it, being a 7mm bullet with a hefty dose of powder behind it, but it wasn't a miracle worker either.

Likely few of your dad's friends had a fast 7mm at that time. While there were a few, mostly wildcats, the 280 was a hot number until the 7 Rem Mag showed up and became a common cartridge. - dan

 

[Sharps '74]

...that the Enfield No.5 'jungle carbine' was a failure because it couldn't shoot straight.

A pal has a JC mounted with a scope that prints 1-1/4" or less all day at 100 yds.

 

[Rman]

My favourite is that some bullets are travelling too fast to expand.

Unfortunately, this one actually has some merit, but the cases are extreme, and don't really apply to hunting scenarios. And it isn't so much that the bullets are, or are not travelling so fast.

R.

 

[Ardent]

A pal has a JC mounted with a scope that prints 1-1/4" or less all day at 100 yds.

I’d like to see him do that for a ten round group, full mag. Really would enjoy seeing it done.

 

[Rman]

I’d like to see him do that for a ten round group, full mag. Really would enjoy seeing it done.

The outcome would depend on how long it took to shoot the proposed group? : )

R.

 

[unstableryan]

How about the one where the bullet continues to accelerate after it leaves the end of the barrel

I operate a ballistics lab and for the most part, rifle bullets settle down before 15m.

 

[Sharps '74]

I’d like to see him do that for a ten round group, full mag. Really would enjoy seeing it done.

He regards it as his 'beater' hunting rifle. 10 rd target groups not likely to happen.

 

[Ardent]

To be fair, all day long means it would do 20 into 1.25 MOA if that was the challenge.

 

[Sharps '74]

I'm actually disappointed with this thread and wish I hadn't started it.

I was hoping for stuff like I was posting re: "myths, lies and fallacies" about the 1911 as published by Patrick Sweeney, backed up by data from "Hatcher's Notebook".

Instead what we are getting are regurgitated statements made by stupid people which border on the ridiculous, things we all heard as kids and recognized as such.

Oh well, back to constructive things now that the snow and ice are fast disappearing ......

 

[JIMMY 808]

Unfortunately, this one actually has some merit, but the cases are extreme, and don't really apply to hunting scenarios. And it isn't so much that the bullets are, or are not travelling so fast.

R.

What’s the math say?

 

[Sharps '74]

A pal has a JC mounted with a scope that prints 1-1/4" or less all day at 100 yds.

I should have left out the words - "all day". That would have been more factual. I have witnessed his ability to print such groups with his JC more than once.

 

[Rman]

What’s the math say?

Same as it always says. Especially regarding truth and fact.

R.

 

[JIMMY 808]

Same as it always says. Especially regarding truth and fact.

R.

Like #### tickets and shots fired...

 

[ninepointer]

I'm actually disappointed with this thread and wish I hadn't started it.

I was hoping for stuff like I was posting re: "myths, lies and fallacies" about the 1911 as published by Patrick Sweeney, backed up by data from "Hatcher's Notebook".

Instead what we are getting are regurgitated statements made by stupid people which border on the ridiculous, things we all heard as kids and recognized as such.

Oh well, back to constructive things now that the snow and ice are fast disappearing ......

A thread is no longer yours the moment you start it

 

[Ardent]

And everyone that disagrees with you is stupid, two cardinal rules of forum activity.

 

[broadhead67]

Is this a bear defence thread yet?

 

[chuck nelson]

Unfortunately, this one actually has some merit, but the cases are extreme, and don't really apply to hunting scenarios. And it isn't so much that the bullets are, or are not travelling so fast.

R.

Now I understand. A lot of things.

 

[Rman]

Now I understand. A lot of things.

Time to quote the second smartest thing you've never said:

...........

R.