Rizzini O\U Shotguns
- Thread starter Whitetail Junkie
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I bought an Isodora Rizzini (FAIR) Carrera Sporting Clays for my daughter. We took delivery of it late last summer - too late for her to shoot it much before going back to school. It appears to be well made, but I'll reserve my final comments until it has been shot in competition for at least a full season.
The Canadian distributor for Rizzini is Will Bilozir. You can find his info at Bilozir.net
Will can set you up with whatever information you're looking for, including his dealers in your area.
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LOL, I did'nt know that.I had no idea that FAIR and Rizzini were associated!!
How is Rizzini and FAIR the same?? because there is a FAIR website and an actual Rizzini and Rizzini USA website and they have totaly different looking shotguns than the FAIR'S,thanks,WJ!
F.A.I.R --- (Fabbrica Armi Isidoro Rizzini) was established in 1971 and was origionally called FAIR Tecni-Mec. It's believed that they were the first of the modern Italian makers to use the now common CNC machines in the manufacturing process and then hand finishing their product. I Rizzini is a cousin to Batista Rizzini who makes receivers very much like the FAIR. I have owned and shot both makes and consider FAIR to be the superior gun. Another Rizzini Is Emilio Rizzini who married one of the Fausti Sisters and his guns are designed to be low end and are made in the Fausti plant -- however Fausti quality should not be confused with the E's. The other Filli Rizzini (Filli/brothers) make only high quality shotguns and rifles with a production of an average of 12 guns a year (bespoke only. Now to confuse even more -- there are 2 cousins (a Rizzini and a Guerini) (Both stock makers by trade) who formed Caesar Guerini --- their actions and barrels have been made in the Fabarm plant -- actions are now made in house with their shaped stocks coming from B Rizzini. Hows that for keeping it in the family?
Cheers, John
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I am hearing that more and more from those who will not deal with him again. Apparantly he washes his hands of any responsibility to see that you get what you ordered soon after payment is made.
WSS in Calgary has the last of their Rizzini stock on sale. I do not think there is much left but it may be worth a telephone call.
I am hearing that more and more from those who will not deal with him again. Apparantly he washes his hands of any responsibility to see that you get what you ordered soon after payment is made.
WSS in Calgary has the last of their Rizzini stock on sale. I do not think there is much left but it may be worth a telephone call.
They are not, but the Rizzini family was a large family and many were into guns.
"So if there are any issues with the gun,you would have to depend on Bilozir to make things right?No thank you."
"I am hearing that more and more from those who will not deal with him again. Apparantly he washes his hands of any responsibility to see that you get what you ordered soon after payment is made."
Gents, please elaborate if possible, I am considering placing an order for a double thru this dealer and it would need to have cast on for a lefty.
Tim
"I am hearing that more and more from those who will not deal with him again. Apparantly he washes his hands of any responsibility to see that you get what you ordered soon after payment is made."
Gents, please elaborate if possible, I am considering placing an order for a double thru this dealer and it would need to have cast on for a lefty.
Tim
A very good friend of mine and I ordered two Fair O/U guns from Bilozir last summer.We both paid extra money to get the stocks custom fitted,and Bilozir seemed very polite and professional when he measured us up and took our orders.However,when the guns came in,the stock dimensions did not match the dimensions that were ordered,a copy of which was in each box with the gun.With my gun ,the LOP was 1 cm too long,but since the gun fit reasonably well anyways,I kept it for a while and shot it.On the other hand,my friend,is a shorter individual,and he is left handed like yourself.His gun came with the LOP 3 cm too long,and the stock drops were 7mm too much,and the gun came with a wooden butt pad instead of the rubber recoil pad that was ordered.
My friend asked for a new butt stock,but Bilozir would not consider that.He insisted on having the stock shortened,and a rubber recoil pad installed,and that was it.He was not prepared to do anything about the incorrect stock drops.The gun was sent out,and many weeks later it returned with the stock shortened,and a recoil pad installed,that wasn't the recoil pad that was ordered.The LOP was now correct,but the drop was still 6mm too much,and to make things worse,when the gun was taken out of the case ,the fore end was split.Of course my friend called to ask for a new fore end,but Bilozir insisted that it wasn't split when it was shipped,and he told my friend that he would have to pay for a new fore end if he wanted one.
So my friend was left with a supposedly custom fit shotgun that he paid extra money for,yet he was left with a broken gun,that wasn't made to the dimensions that he paid for.
Out of disgust,I sold my own FAIR,and I will never deal with Bilozir again.As for my friend, he will likely just have the fore end fixed and shoot a gun that really doesn't fit him,even though he paid extra for a custom fitted gun.
catnthehatt
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
I have owned a E Rizzini Sporting clays gun , and 8 FAIR shotguns, all have been great shooters and well built.
I had a pin firing pin issue on my express gun n , the bottom pin broke.
I was sent one up , it took two days to get it and i was back in business.
I have never had any problems dealing with Will Bilozir and have heard of none except for stubblejumper's friend.
two other people I know were so impressed with the Carerra sporting they saw that they just ordered one each.
Cat
I had a pin firing pin issue on my express gun n , the bottom pin broke.
I was sent one up , it took two days to get it and i was back in business.
I have never had any problems dealing with Will Bilozir and have heard of none except for stubblejumper's friend.
two other people I know were so impressed with the Carerra sporting they saw that they just ordered one each.
Cat
Like everything else,most firearms dealers are easy to get along with as long as there aren't any unexpected issues.However,it is when something goes wrong that you see what a dealer is really all about.When I spend my money,I expect to receive what I paid for,and if there is an issue,I expect the dealer to make good.If the dealer ships me a product,and it arrives damaged,I expect that dealer to take up the issue with the person that shipped it,or with the shipper if it is likely that the product was damaged in shipping.
I did have an issue with a Cooper rifle that wasn't quite right,but the dealer went above and beyond to make things right.That same dealer would certainly not have intentionally sent me a product that he knew was not what I ordered.
In the case of the FAIR shotguns,the dealer reviewed the paperwork that came with the guns,and even though he knew that the guns were not what we ordered,he didn't call us,he just sent us the guns anyways.Had we received the guns that we ordered,we would both think that the dealer was a great guy,and we would have recommended him to other people.As it is,I want other people to know what happened to us,so that the same thing doesn't happen to them.
The real shame of it,is that the guns themselves appear to be well made,that is why we ordered ours in the first place.
I did have an issue with a Cooper rifle that wasn't quite right,but the dealer went above and beyond to make things right.That same dealer would certainly not have intentionally sent me a product that he knew was not what I ordered.
In the case of the FAIR shotguns,the dealer reviewed the paperwork that came with the guns,and even though he knew that the guns were not what we ordered,he didn't call us,he just sent us the guns anyways.Had we received the guns that we ordered,we would both think that the dealer was a great guy,and we would have recommended him to other people.As it is,I want other people to know what happened to us,so that the same thing doesn't happen to them.
The real shame of it,is that the guns themselves appear to be well made,that is why we ordered ours in the first place.
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Orillia, Ontario
Grouser has it mostly right ... Battista, Emilio and Isidoro Rizzini are brothers. The Flli. Rizzini firm is run by two brothers who are cousins of Battista, Emilio & Isidoro. The Caesar Guerini company is also run by brothers Giorgio & Antonio Guerini who are nephews of Battista Rizzini.
And yes, Barbara Fausti ... the youngest of the Fausti sisters is married to a Rizzini. Emilio Rizzini and Stephano Fausti are allied and occupy the same factory facilities.
catnthehatt
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Crap, I thought that was common knowledge!
That particular area of Italy is a regular soap opera of gun making!!
Cat
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Orillia, Ontario
Crap, I thought that was common knowledge!
That particular area of Italy is a regular soap opera of gun making!!
Cat
Not much different amongst the Basque families of Eibar, Spain either !
joeyclimbing
Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island
Rizzini
I bought a lightly used 20 ga Rizzini FAIR last week. It is a truly beautiful gun and it fits me better than my Beretta Silver pigeon. It has a 28" barrel, the same as the beretta but comparing the two it fits me better, having a lower comb and a more neutral pitch.
Originally I was going to use it for ruffed and blue grouse hunting as well as trap but I'm changing my mind because it is too nice looking to run hundreds of rounds through it; so now I am looking for a pure trap gun with an adjustable comb.
I think you would like the feel of a Rizinni but I don't think I will treat mine as a workhorse.
I bought a lightly used 20 ga Rizzini FAIR last week. It is a truly beautiful gun and it fits me better than my Beretta Silver pigeon. It has a 28" barrel, the same as the beretta but comparing the two it fits me better, having a lower comb and a more neutral pitch.
Originally I was going to use it for ruffed and blue grouse hunting as well as trap but I'm changing my mind because it is too nice looking to run hundreds of rounds through it; so now I am looking for a pure trap gun with an adjustable comb.
I think you would like the feel of a Rizinni but I don't think I will treat mine as a workhorse.
