Rob xcr
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I'm getting the odd 1 moa group @ 100 yards with my XCR and it's running perfectly on the very lowest gas setting.
You want the best get an XCR, if you want to p1ss around with 5 different wrenches to get your SCAR apart, get one of those, and pay more for it too.
You want the best get an XCR, if you want to p1ss around with 5 different wrenches to get your SCAR apart, get one of those, and pay more for it too.
And people who either do or did recently.
I have nothing against the XCR...I have been kicking around the idea of buying one for two years.
But most of the guys I know who have had them had mixed feelings about them and generally sold them off after a while.
I can think of one guy who thought really highly of his and another guy who had no specific complaints. But no matter how happy you are with yours, the fact is they DO get mixed reviews, and not just from people who have never seen one in person.
I am still considering buying one...but I am realistic about the fact that a fair number of people I personally know have owned them, and only one was thrilled, and the rest sold them off, in some cases because they got bored, in other cases because they thought the guns were not very good. They are all guys who have a lot of experience with black rifles.
I really like my XCR but:
-It does not break open far enough... I modified my upper so it would open all the way. It is easy to do and should have been done in the factory... That way, one can access the firing mechanism without removing the front pin (which is difficult). Furthermore, removing and reassembling the bolt assembly is easier when fully opened.
-The front pin should be captive and easilly removed without the small, easilly lost, difficult/impossible to remove without a pointy tool, clip... Loose that clip and the rifle will soon be out of commission. And you NEED to remove the front pin to access the firing machanism unless you modify the upper so it opens all the way...
-There should be a more slender barrel option... Fluting is expensive while turning a lighter profile barrel is easy. I don't care much about heat problems with 5 round mags in semi-auto. The way it is now, the barrel contour is that of a fairly heavy .308... I don't need an HBAR or heavy varmint barrel on a .223 for general field use. If Robinson does not come up with a slim barrel, I'll have to have mine turned. That will surely solve the front-heavy balance and poor offhand caracteristics.
My rifle is an older version but the new ones have better triggers and ambi-controls. I heard rumors of canadian made stock adaptors that would allow the use of AR colapsible stocks... That would be good news indeed. My rifle has an original adaptor and I like it a lot.
The XCR is a well made, accurate rifle. It has some quirks and not everyone likes it... But you know, I owned a Classic Green and it did not like it... Well made but heavy as hell, not very good ergonomics with the controls, mickey mouse bipod, no rails, expensive, unavaillable mags, expensive... My advice is to try many rifles and pick the one you like. I love the AR platform for many reasons but it is restricted and you can't do anything with it in Canada.
-It does not break open far enough... I modified my upper so it would open all the way. It is easy to do and should have been done in the factory... That way, one can access the firing mechanism without removing the front pin (which is difficult). Furthermore, removing and reassembling the bolt assembly is easier when fully opened.
-The front pin should be captive and easilly removed without the small, easilly lost, difficult/impossible to remove without a pointy tool, clip... Loose that clip and the rifle will soon be out of commission. And you NEED to remove the front pin to access the firing machanism unless you modify the upper so it opens all the way...
-There should be a more slender barrel option... Fluting is expensive while turning a lighter profile barrel is easy. I don't care much about heat problems with 5 round mags in semi-auto. The way it is now, the barrel contour is that of a fairly heavy .308... I don't need an HBAR or heavy varmint barrel on a .223 for general field use. If Robinson does not come up with a slim barrel, I'll have to have mine turned. That will surely solve the front-heavy balance and poor offhand caracteristics.
My rifle is an older version but the new ones have better triggers and ambi-controls. I heard rumors of canadian made stock adaptors that would allow the use of AR colapsible stocks... That would be good news indeed. My rifle has an original adaptor and I like it a lot.
The XCR is a well made, accurate rifle. It has some quirks and not everyone likes it... But you know, I owned a Classic Green and it did not like it... Well made but heavy as hell, not very good ergonomics with the controls, mickey mouse bipod, no rails, expensive, unavaillable mags, expensive... My advice is to try many rifles and pick the one you like. I love the AR platform for many reasons but it is restricted and you can't do anything with it in Canada.
?!?! I did it last night with the eraser end of a pencil. Mine moves easier than a conquistador's bowels in Mexico.
New trigger works very nicely, as do the new ambi controls.
Hitch pin clips are widely available:
http://www.westernwireprod.com/fastcontent/hitchpins.html
I was out shooting a new XCR once and had forgotten to put the cotter pin back in while I was reassembling it. At the range I noticed the hammer axis pin was walking out. I pulled a hairpin out of my hair, stuck it in there, and continued shooting another 500 rounds. It pays to be a girl. 
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
I got to shoot m39a2's a while back, and prior to that, QYV's. Nice guns, definately on the wish list. Scary looking and non restricted. Just what I want, especially since 180Bs are no longer made and therefore rare as hen's teeth. No I just have to find a job that can support my gun habit.
Paul Morisson: DIFFICULT because of the small clip... Once the clip is out, of course it is easy to remove the pin... I know clips are widely available but when you loose a pin in the field or at the range, you will quickly find they are not THAT widely available RIGHT NOW... And I don't have airpins on me most of the time XCRmonger
That said, with me upper modified so it opens all the way, I don't have to remove the front pin that often... And never in the field! Problem solved by the use of a metal file on one small spot... If my barrel was lighter, my XCR would now be perfect! I will probably have it lightened this winter... And have a different flash hider installed while I'm at it (personnal preference)... Nothing else wrong with that rifle and it shoots as well as any AR or the Swiss Green/Blue/Red/Black Special...
That said, with me upper modified so it opens all the way, I don't have to remove the front pin that often... And never in the field! Problem solved by the use of a metal file on one small spot... If my barrel was lighter, my XCR would now be perfect! I will probably have it lightened this winter... And have a different flash hider installed while I'm at it (personnal preference)... Nothing else wrong with that rifle and it shoots as well as any AR or the Swiss Green/Blue/Red/Black Special...
Mr Wolverine
CGN Regular
- Location
- Manitoba. Canada
Good balance is far more important than weight! Half the weight between the hands, 1/4 in front and 1/4 behind. Then the rifle will seem alive!
I just held one at the club this evening...I think I'm in love. I was looking to get an AR platform for service condition matches and this rifle appeared. The most attractive part about it other than totally logical design is that it's non restricted. I sleeping on it tonight.
- Location
- BC, In a Van down by the river!
Totally out of the xcr loop here...any .308 xcr's and if so is wolverine importing them? thx.
scorpio_21
Regular
- Location
- Western Canada
I'd also be interested in a lighter profile barrel. Any feedback that fluting may cause heat damage? What would it cost to do?
Also, anyone remove the stock flash hider? I can't remember if they were welded on in Canada.
Also, anyone remove the stock flash hider? I can't remember if they were welded on in Canada.
308 isn't out yet and yes Wolverine will be bringing them in when they are available.
