Well, as I was not present I can't really comment on the "conflicting report" regarding a thread posted by an employee of the sole Canadian Robinson Armament Importer.
Reading their thread leaves me with the impression that it provides significantly less detail than the review I wrote, and therefor does not really contain enough information for me to develop a critical opinion.
I was pretty open with my testing protocol, ie 10 round groups shot from a cold barrel. It would have been easy for me to break the strings of fire into smaller strings, which would have resulted in a couple of groups that were sub MOA. My opinion of that type of protocol though is it is too limited in scope and results in a skewed perspective on the rifles capabilities.
Regarding your "bs" statement, believe what you want and spend your money accordingly. I accept no responsibility for ruining your purchasing plans, my thoughts being you shoukd man up and drop the $$ to find out yourself and develop your own opinion (as I did, paying significantly more $$ than you will have to down in the us) regarding the subject toy. Regarding your "truth" statement you imply that one of us is lying. I would suggest that it is possible for us both to be telling "the truth", given they were certainly not the same rifle, same ammo, same shooter, or same testing protocol.
All I can offer is my limited perspective and opinion, which I share details about how both were developed. The result? I am very happy with my XCR-ls in .223 & 7.62x39, both of which are capable of performing sub-2MOA in my hands. After purchasing and testing a .308 Xcr-m (which I was more excited about than the smaller caliber guns and thus did load development for first), I wound up feeling disappointed so I sold the gun and bought another .223 Xcr which I am also very pleased with.
Lastly, I had a tonne of fun doing the testing and am grateful there are companies like RobArms who continue to work hard to bring us new choices of stuff to shoot. The .308 Xcr is just not for me, but I love the light version.
None of this is meant to be rude; best of luck with your purchasing decision.
Cheers,
Brobee
Well said sir, well said.
I did not mean that someone was lying, though it's possible.
Just trying to figure how two guys could have vastly different groups from the same batch of guns.
I read your experience and it is similar to mine, (except shooting off the mag part). I thought your report and candor were excellent as well.
To guess, either the quality control is just horrible over at rob arm,
or where they are getting their barrels,
or someone is fudging on that group pic, either yours or the other guy.
I did not know he was the sole importer in Canada, so that's interesting to say the least.
I still have not heard from the guy on here who had 4.25 inch group at 600 yds.
I had a FAL that shot as bad as your XCR-M and sold it for same reason.
I think you put it best when you said, I'll just have to pony up the money & find out like the rest of you.
Being that you responded to my inquiry quite well, and so far the sole importer has not, that pretty much takes care of it for me.
That and at least one, and possibly two guys on here have sent their uppers back.
Im gonna pass.
Dam Shame, great, reliable operating system.
Good on you Brobbe for standing up to the scrutiny.
Its nothing but crickets so far from the other guy.
ETA; any chance you just had a brain fart and did something goofy like not checking the barrel bolt, or something?
Not being a wise guy, it's just after 30 years of shooting even i have done stuff like that before. I once forgot to trim my cases
on my reloads and went to a precision match with a gun that had a very tight chamber. Half of them wouldn't chamber and i lost every timed
event trying to clear rounds that wouldnt chamber. So ive done it.
