RONI Glock Carbine conversion kits - Good news!

Now, the comparison between the two [Original Roni vs Copy]

Overall comparison:
They look pretty much the same but the copy have some little finish differences. This is definately NOT THE SAME QUALITY of the original Roni but for the price of the copy (125$) versus the original (400$), you guys can't go wrong if you want something that will go bang everytime without sacrifying your security! Also, i'm pretty sure it will endure thousand of rounds from 9mm and .40! :p

Slide Grips looks pretty much the same except patent markings:
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Here you can see there is some difference next to the cheekrest pin, there is some vertical lines on the sides of the pin on the copy. There also a difference over the barrel muzzlebrake, vents are on the sides for the copy as the original Roni only have one on the top (Useful). The copy lacks also the reference numbers on the top & sides picatinny rails :
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Also some quality mold differences over the shell hinges... Copy on the left, Original Roni on the right...
See the side lines on each swivel of the copy? Texture of the frame is not the same also. Maybe a different quality of polymer...
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Here the mold of the copy (left) had some minor defects like some overmolding material left in the vent holes on the side of the frame (the 3 holes). The original Roni don't have any material left in his side holes:
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Top Rail looks pretty much the same and pretty sturdy too but copy lacks the reference numbers on the picatinny rail:
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Now, inside the shell there is some little difference over the mold quality finish. Copy works the same as the original Roni but doesn't have the same finish.

ORIGINAL RONI:
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RONI COPY:
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TheZreturns said:
Now, the comparison between the two [Original Roni vs Copy]

Overall comparison:
They look pretty much the same but the copy have some little finish differences. This is definately NOT THE SAME QUALITY of the original Roni but for the price of the copy (125$) versus the original (400$), you guys can't go wrong if you want something that will go bang everytime without sacrifying your security! Also, i'm pretty sure it will endure thousand of rounds from 9mm and .40! :p

Slide Grips looks pretty much the same except patent markings:
p1000077cg.jpg

p1000078t.jpg



Here you can see there is some difference next to the cheekrest pin, there is some vertical lines on the sides of the pin on the copy. There also a difference over the barrel muzzlebrake, vents are on the sides for the copy as the original Roni only have one on the top (Useful). The copy lacks also the reference numbers on the top & sides picatinny rails :
p1000079x.jpg



Also some quality mold differences over the shell hinges... Copy on the left, Original Roni on the right...
See the side lines on each swivel of the copy? Texture of the frame is not the same also. Maybe a different quality of polymer...
p1000081l.jpg


Here the mold of the copy (left) had some minor defects like some overmolding material left in the vent holes on the side of the frame (the 3 holes). The original Roni don't have any material left in his side holes:
p1000082v.jpg

p1000084c.jpg


Top Rail looks pretty much the same and pretty sturdy too but copy lacks the reference numbers on the picatinny rail:
p1000083v.jpg


Now, inside the shell there is some little difference over the mold quality finish. Copy works the same as the original Roni but doesn't have the same finish.

ORIGINAL RONI:
p1000085e.jpg


RONI COPY:
p1000086q.jpg
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Interesting as a lot of the differences aren't on the tan version as it has the muzzle brake vents on the top and bottom also the tan version has EMA logo on both sides. Either way, when I shot mine it was sturdy and accurate.
 
TheZreturns said:
FIRST OF ALL... I WANT TO SAY I HATE CANADA POST... :bangHead:

I've got Bad News... :mad:

The package FINALLY arrived today... The bad news is that they damaged the package during it's processing.

There was a letter from Canada Post inside saying they had damaged it and they were sorry (YEAH RIGHT! :rolleyes:). Letter they even didn't printed correctly, it is sideways !!!

-snip-

In the next post, I'll the comparison of both products... The airsoft one versus the original Roni...
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Is it any wonder they are losing business? Sorry about your experience. Hope it gets resolved.
 
Love mine, but using the Glock 19 in the kit means that I get powder back blast through the vents into my face...probably should use the Glock 17. Anyone have a spare G17 for sale?
 
shootemup said:
Love mine, but using the Glock 19 in the kit means that I get powder back blast through the vents into my face...probably should use the Glock 17. Anyone have a spare G17 for sale?
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This doesn't seem very safe; from what you describe the muzzle of the Glock isn't mating with the barrel shroud. From what I recall, on an authentic Roni (and at least the Hera GCC) this is adjustable for the standard and compact barrels. I would be concerned with having parts of your Airsoft kit being ejected along with the blast at some point as well...

So let me get this straight: you're now looking for a used $500 Glock to make your $85 ($25 in China) Airsoft kit work? Wouldn't you be just better off buying the genuine article so you can use your Glock 19? ;)
 
blaxsun said:
Are you sure the Airsoft one didn't just fall apart in the box because... it's Airsoft? Just saying... ;)
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I know I am not the only one who thinks this but probably one of the few that doesn't care about getting flamed by you or your nuthuggers Blaxsun. Your extreme interest in this thread is because you sell carbine conversions kits for Glocks. I have ordered from you before and have no issues except maybe for the price of your PMags compared to Questar. I guarantee you the majority of people buying these kits here will get just as much enjoyment out of them as they would paying more than three times the price. Your talk about safety being a concern is strongly influenced by your biased position. I have never received an infraction on CGN and I hope this is not taken as dealer bashing. Just what I feel is the truth. I wouldn't have even posted this if you didn't persist. :cheers:
 
cbabes said:
I know I am not the only one who thinks this but probably one of the few that doesn't care about getting flamed by you or your nuthuggers Blaxsun. Your extreme interest in this thread is because you sell carbine conversions kits for Glocks. I have ordered from you before and have no issues except maybe for the price of your PMags compared to Questar. I guarantee you the majority of people buying these kits here will get just as much enjoyment out of them as they would paying more than three times the price. Your talk about safety being a concern is strongly influenced by your biased position. I have never received an infraction on CGN and I hope this is not taken as dealer bashing. Just what I feel is the truth. I wouldn't have even posted this if you didn't persist. :cheers:
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"Nuthugger"? ;) I'm actually not selling any Glock kits at the moment, nor have I made any reference to that in the 'Airsoft' discussion - so I have absolutely zero bias with respect to what people choose to do with their money, other than the fact that I think there are some inherent and genuine safety concerns with using a real firearm with an Airsoft product. This is a little bit different than using an NC optic or red dot clone...
 
It comes all in pieces??? Any money saved is instantly spent on frustration, screwing around and/or missing pieces. No thanks.

You guys do what you like, I would never use that AS kit to wrap around a real firearm. And Blaxsun is correct, the authentic Roni shrouds are adjustable for compact vs regular.
Powder blasts in the face!? Yes, great deal....
 
Shooter1of38 said:
It comes all in pieces??? Any money saved is instantly spent on frustration, screwing around and/or missing pieces. No thanks.

You guys do what you like, I would never use that AS kit to wrap around a real firearm. And Blaxsun is correct, the authentic Roni shrouds are adjustable for compact vs regular.
Powder blasts in the face!? Yes, great deal....
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I welcome anyone in the GTA to come and shoot mine that didn't come in pieces by the way. I owned the original Roni and this one is just as tight and accurate. No powder blasts whatsoever.
 
blaxsun said:
"Nuthugger"? ;) I'm actually not selling any Glock kits at the moment, nor have I made any reference to that in the 'Airsoft' discussion - so I have absolutely zero bias with respect to what people choose to do with their money, other than the fact that I think there are some inherent and genuine safety concerns with using a real firearm with an Airsoft product. This is a little bit different than using an NC optic or red dot clone...
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All dealers have nuthuggers that defend them no matter wrong or right. lol. OK I didn't realize that you don't sell the kits anymore. Sorry!! Just found it strange the amount of knocking you were doing on these kits. I am serious mine is just as satisfying to shoot as was my "real" Roni. I even bought one for someone after they shot mine and this person trains law enforcement. They know their gear. Now they didn't buy it as a serious piece of gear but for the same reason as I did, for some fun times at the range.
 
shootemup said:
I'll have to take a look to see if I can move the shroud to meet up with the front of the G19 slide. I wasn't even aware of the option, as the kits don't come with directions.
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I can't remember where the bolts for adjusting the shroud are offhand; perhaps Shooter1of38 recalls. But you definitely don't want to be using it if the muzzle isn't flush with the shroud. That's a huge safety issue. Even the genuine stocks aren't designed to handle the overpressure in that manner.

In addition, make sure you guys never run these with a G17C or aftermarket compensator.

cbabes said:
I welcome anyone in the GTA to come and shoot mine that didn't come in pieces by the way. I owned the original Roni and this one is just as tight and accurate. No powder blasts whatsoever.
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There are 3 models we're talking about, and it sounds like you have the second.
1. Authentic/genuine CAA RONI, Gen2.
2. Authentic/genuine EMA RONI, Gen1 (perhaps surplus?)
3. Airsoft/knockoff RONI.

cbabes said:
All dealers have nuthuggers that defend them no matter wrong or right. lol. OK I didn't realize that you don't sell the kits anymore. Sorry!! Just found it strange the amount of knocking you were doing on these kits. I am serious mine is just as satisfying to shoot as was my "real" Roni. I even bought one for someone after they shot mine and this person trains law enforcement. They know their gear. Now they didn't buy it as a serious piece of gear but for the same reason as I did, for some fun times at the range.
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I just don't want to see anyone inadvertently injuring themselves with these Airsoft kits in the course of saving a few bucks. If someone has the user manual for the actual RONI it might be beneficial to post that (or at least highlight some of the safety/cautionary aspects).

I'll tell you straight-up that the best bang for your buck is the RONI (in terms of overall features, ease-of-use, etc.) The GCC is the shortest, lightest and probably most solid; it's a bit more semi-permanent in terms of setup and installation, though.
 
Adjustment screw for the barrel shroud is under front lower rail. Slide grip off, remove rail, loosen screw, slide shroud back.
 
blaxsun said:
If someone has the user manual for the actual RONI it might be beneficial to post that (or at least highlight some of the safety/cautionary aspects).
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Taken from my Roni G1 Instructions & Advantages sheets:

SAFETY FEATURES:

RONI comes with a safety shroud to protect the trigger for pistols without a conventional safety
devise.

RONI has a forward finger guard to protect the forefinger from the barrel shroud.


ENSURE THAT THE FIREARM IS NOT LOADED PRIOR TO INSTALATION.

PRACTICE SAFE FIREARM HANDLING PROCEDURES AT ALL TIMES.

YOU MUST READ AND FOLLOW THE MANUAL. FOR MORE INFORMATION VISIT OUR WEBSITE.

ALL “C” GLOCK MODELS ARE PROHIBITED. THE INTEGRATED BELOW RAIL IS MANDATORY.

All infos can be downloaded here:

http://www.caatactical.com/FileManager/Uploads/products/267/RONI ADVANTAGES_ENG.pdf

http://www.caatactical.com/FileManager/Uploads/products/267/RONI-G1_instructions3.pdf
 
blaxsun said:
I can't remember where the bolts for adjusting the shroud are offhand; perhaps Shooter1of38 recalls. But you definitely don't want to be using it if the muzzle isn't flush with the shroud. That's a huge safety issue. Even the genuine stocks aren't designed to handle the overpressure in that manner.

In addition, make sure you guys never run these with a G17C or aftermarket compensator.



There are 3 models we're talking about, and it sounds like you have the second.
1. Authentic/genuine CAA RONI, Gen2.
2. Authentic/genuine EMA RONI, Gen1 (perhaps surplus?)
3. Airsoft/knockoff RONI.



I just don't want to see anyone inadvertently injuring themselves with these Airsoft kits in the course of saving a few bucks. If someone has the user manual for the actual RONI it might be beneficial to post that (or at least highlight some of the safety/cautionary aspects).

I'll tell you straight-up that the best bang for your buck is the RONI (in terms of overall features, ease-of-use, etc.) The GCC is the shortest, lightest and probably most solid; it's a bit more semi-permanent in terms of setup and installation, though.
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First off I am no ones "nuthugger" but blaxsun nailed it here. Also a very good point about the compensated Glocks. I'd never thought of that situation before he brought it up and I think running a GC in any of these kits could be disastrous to the kit and potentially harmful to the user and those around him/her. Please be super careful running 9mm or .40 in those Airsoft ones, they're just not designed for it!!:eek: My.02
 
One thing I just noticed is if you go to the dealer's site besides being sold out of both colours, he added "works with G17 Pistol" only on the tan one which has the muzzle vents in the correct place.
 
My tan stock arrived today roughly 5 days after I ordered it. It came fully assembled except for the secondary mag clip.

I took the advice of the person who said he inspected both versions and found the tan one to be higher quality.

Interestingly, I think the stock I got is a real EMA Roni. It features the EMA logo on the right side and the soldier logo on the left. Both logos were covered by a black sticker. This stock is much more refined on the inside than the pics posted of the black stocks.
 
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