Rosebud - Benchrest Score Shoot June 12
- Thread starter rpollock
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I've met Tony. Offer stands. Not everything in the CSRA is a belly game.
Tony Gauthier
CGN Regular
- Location
- Alberta, Canada
It would not be much fun trying to lay on my belly right now with this catheter in me!
I was at an Fclass match once and Bill Leeper suggested I should try it. I no sooner said I am too old to flop around on my belly when I look over and Earl Brown is just standing up from shooting. Boy did I feel stupid!!!!!!
Right now I am going to need the wife to load the truck with BR gear & someone at the range to unload it, as I can't lift it! And still have one surgery to go so that is likely my whole summer being unable to lift anything more than 10 pounds.
I was at an Fclass match once and Bill Leeper suggested I should try it. I no sooner said I am too old to flop around on my belly when I look over and Earl Brown is just standing up from shooting. Boy did I feel stupid!!!!!!
Right now I am going to need the wife to load the truck with BR gear & someone at the range to unload it, as I can't lift it! And still have one surgery to go so that is likely my whole summer being unable to lift anything more than 10 pounds.
I am most regretful at being unable to attend... I have really wanted to try BR and get to know these undisputed masters of real precision shooting.
What is the cartridge of choice for BR Score shooting, and what are some typical loads that you guys really like? I'm fielding more and more requests for 30 cal 17 twist barrels...30BR?
What is the cartridge of choice for BR Score shooting, and what are some typical loads that you guys really like? I'm fielding more and more requests for 30 cal 17 twist barrels...30BR?
- Location
- calgary alberta
It certainly IS a different game. I sort of thought when I arrived I should turn around quietly before anyone noticed and leave.
I did not bring any loading gear or rests and my rifle has a rather different look and finish to the 1s that were on the benchs
But any day that I can get a good dose of gun shot residue is a good day
So I gotta ask, is there anything in the BR rules about having a camoed BR rifle? Or as long as I build a 6PPC that uses a stock like the 1s I saw and fits into the weight class am I good to go?
A polished BMW is about as shiny a thing as I really want, and I really do not want the rest of my rifles to have need of therapy if a BR rifle should be living in the same safe
So I gotta ask, is there anything in the BR rules about having a camoed BR rifle? Or as long as I build a 6PPC that uses a stock like the 1s I saw and fits into the weight class am I good to go?
A polished BMW is about as shiny a thing as I really want, and I really do not want the rest of my rifles to have need of therapy if a BR rifle should be living in the same safe
No restrictions as to paint job or finish on the rifle. Camo would be interesting. Any of the common stock makers can furnish a BR legal stock.
Build a Light Varmint rifle at 10.5 lb (LV) all up weight. Then you can shoot in LV, HV and Unlimited classes to get you going. Highly recommend a tight neck 6PPC for group shooting, nothing else can touch it. You can build it on a .473 boltface if you like, as most actions will still pull the PPC case on a .473. This keeps the option open to build a 30BR or some other BR down the road.
Rick
Green pasture, from what I gather nothing like that occurred. I talked with one of the guys and from what I heard Rick was very open minded and had a lot of questions.
If I understood correctly he was not totally sure of how his tactical rifle would fair against shortrange BR rifles. He openly admitted having it handed to him and was very receptive of the conversations that were had there.
I strongly feel that Rick coming over and trying a score shoot is GREAT news for the game of Bench rest.
There is SO MUCH MORE than just sitting at a table. It is sitting at a table trying to shoot groups in the 1's at 100 yards and .500 or less at 200. The factors taht come into play are to numerous to mention.
I was not there but ATR Rick came to a challenge and welocmed it with open arms. Good on him.
Anybody else willing t ogive it a try?
Regina in just over a week and a half, then Canadian Nationals at Rosebud August long weekend, and Selkirk August 15/16. In there is also 2 legs of the Alberta Provincials and if anyone is intersted there are about 1/2 dozen of us from the west going to the NBRSA Nationals in Kansas City the 3rd week of September. That is where the big dogs from the US will be.
CBY
If I understood correctly he was not totally sure of how his tactical rifle would fair against shortrange BR rifles. He openly admitted having it handed to him and was very receptive of the conversations that were had there.
I strongly feel that Rick coming over and trying a score shoot is GREAT news for the game of Bench rest.
There is SO MUCH MORE than just sitting at a table. It is sitting at a table trying to shoot groups in the 1's at 100 yards and .500 or less at 200. The factors taht come into play are to numerous to mention.
I was not there but ATR Rick came to a challenge and welocmed it with open arms. Good on him.
Anybody else willing t ogive it a try?
Regina in just over a week and a half, then Canadian Nationals at Rosebud August long weekend, and Selkirk August 15/16. In there is also 2 legs of the Alberta Provincials and if anyone is intersted there are about 1/2 dozen of us from the west going to the NBRSA Nationals in Kansas City the 3rd week of September. That is where the big dogs from the US will be.
CBY
There is quite a difference in equipment between BR and Tactical. I think anyone with an IQ higher than dirt would realize that.
Your post as usual is speaking volumes about YOU.
Ian,
The 30 BR is quite popular as a dedicated varmint-for-score cartridge. The feeling is that the 30 caliber bullet gives enough of a scoring advantage that it pays off. Bullets are generally in the 110 to 120 grain range and twists of 16 or 17 inches work well. For group shooting though, the 6PPC is the accepted king. A 6BR can be competitive but no serious competitor/gunsmith would recommend it as a first choice. Likewise, the 223 can come close but it's a bit of an uphill battle.
The formula for a winning benchrest rifle was established in the late seventies and is, for the most part, unchanged. A fourteen twist barrel chambered in 6PPC, on a rigid action, glued into a glass stock (now we have carbon fibre), and topped with a scope of 30 power or greater. The whole outfit to weigh within an ounce or so of ten and a half pounds.
When it comes to score shooting, I am truly impressed by the shooting done by the good hunter class shooters (I never was among them!). They will shoot scores in the high 240's with the occasional 250 and very respectable X counts. When you consider that they do this with 10 pound 308's (most now use some shortened version of the 308) and six power scopes, it is even more impressive. Regards, Bill.
The 30 BR is quite popular as a dedicated varmint-for-score cartridge. The feeling is that the 30 caliber bullet gives enough of a scoring advantage that it pays off. Bullets are generally in the 110 to 120 grain range and twists of 16 or 17 inches work well. For group shooting though, the 6PPC is the accepted king. A 6BR can be competitive but no serious competitor/gunsmith would recommend it as a first choice. Likewise, the 223 can come close but it's a bit of an uphill battle.
The formula for a winning benchrest rifle was established in the late seventies and is, for the most part, unchanged. A fourteen twist barrel chambered in 6PPC, on a rigid action, glued into a glass stock (now we have carbon fibre), and topped with a scope of 30 power or greater. The whole outfit to weigh within an ounce or so of ten and a half pounds.
When it comes to score shooting, I am truly impressed by the shooting done by the good hunter class shooters (I never was among them!). They will shoot scores in the high 240's with the occasional 250 and very respectable X counts. When you consider that they do this with 10 pound 308's (most now use some shortened version of the 308) and six power scopes, it is even more impressive. Regards, Bill.
Wow. I thought BR was all precision, no need for accuracy. That does both right in spades.Bechrest is kind of addicting if the possibility of shooting like this interests you. Takes a lot of practice though.
What is the process for verifying that the 5th is on paper BTW?
Good point. We use what is called a moving backer. Basically its a roll of paper behind the target that moves slowly. Driven by something like a BBQ rotisserie.
So its easy to tell if five shots were taken or less or more.
- Location
- Virden, MB
I was going to say the same thing. Man that stock is a beauty.
You need to see the Fox's Terry Leonard on his 6PPC. That is a thing of beauty as well. I hope I am wrong about my stocks. If not I do see a couple cedar/carbon fiber stocks in the works for me....... Preferably RED WOOD.
CBY
CBY
Clay.
