I have found a Model 1912 Ross .22 sport rifle. The barrel is serial numbered and proof marked. It is in very good condition. I’m wondering if this was factory made or a later cut down trainer. What would this little rifle be worth? Pictures below.
Ross Model 1912 .22 cal. What is it worth?
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That is a 1912 Commercial Cadet as shown by the serial number being on the barrel. The only question is, was the forend cut down by an owner or did it leave the factory like that?
I am familiar with the pattern in the below pics, it's a Cadet Sporter. Note the dished buttplate.
Now, yours is a later serial number...I wonder if the factory changed to make the Sporter have a straight buttplate at higher serials?
Also note the style of the pistol grips are different...yours has a more squared off look than I've seen before.
Yours looks to be in very nice shape. How is the bore? They are often pitted.
I am familiar with the pattern in the below pics, it's a Cadet Sporter. Note the dished buttplate.
Now, yours is a later serial number...I wonder if the factory changed to make the Sporter have a straight buttplate at higher serials?
Also note the style of the pistol grips are different...yours has a more squared off look than I've seen before.
Yours looks to be in very nice shape. How is the bore? They are often pitted.
longbranch*
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With Ross nothing is certain and written in stone, but I'd have to say is a cutdown fullwood commercial model. Pictured below are two examples showing the specific buttplate different to military Ross models. I currently own the one in the rear and another great CGN member now owns the one in the forefront.
Cheers
Geoff
With Ross nothing is certain and written in stone, but I'd have to say is a cutdown fullwood commercial model. Pictured below are two examples showing the specific buttplate different to military Ross models. I currently own the one in the rear and another great CGN member now owns the one in the forefront.
Cheers
Geoff
Do you know whether it was cut down?
14968 would be a fairly late Commercial production Cadet. Best bet for you would be to compare it to a full-stocked Cadet, then closely examine your barrel when it's out of the wood for colo(u)r breaks in the blue, expecting that if the wood had been cut back relatively recently, you would find darker blue under the barrel,and particularly where the forend cap protected it. IF the blue seems to match the half-stock wood, it could have been done after the Ross Factory was expropriated (stolen) from Sir Charles by the Canadian Gov't in 1917, when all the left-over Cadet parts were assembled and sold.
Interesting- the standard buttplate that's on your Ross is the same one that was used on the early MkIII's until early 1915....CanTom and LongBranch both show the extremely scarce Carbine variant of the Cadet with the unique buttplate. Less than a half-dozen of these have surfaced so far, and original Ross Catalogs from 1912 and 1913 illustrate this exact variation with a red-ink stamp advising "Canada Market only".....
It's only a SWAG, but somewhere around $400 +/- would sound fair to both buyer and seller to me.
Interesting- the standard buttplate that's on your Ross is the same one that was used on the early MkIII's until early 1915....CanTom and LongBranch both show the extremely scarce Carbine variant of the Cadet with the unique buttplate. Less than a half-dozen of these have surfaced so far, and original Ross Catalogs from 1912 and 1913 illustrate this exact variation with a red-ink stamp advising "Canada Market only".....
It's only a SWAG, but somewhere around $400 +/- would sound fair to both buyer and seller to me.
