Ross rifle value

Which model? Mk. I? Mk. II (no * through *****)? Mk. III? New in the grease? Beat to shzt and greased up?
Sort of like saying, "I have a Ford. What is it worth?"
 
all depends on the collectors u find to sell it to if its been in your fam for that long its priceless i would never sell anything like that
 
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It's worth what ever it takes to get it in your hands. Comes down to how bad do you want it. Assuming it truely is "new in the grease, never issued" and not some Indian or other countrys re-furb, then any agreeable amount is what it's worth.
Geoff
 
"Original Ross" gives one an aggregate of about 150 variations....
Also, I've seen some real "bubba jobs" that the owner could/would swear on a stack of Bibles were original.
 
Tiriaq- thx for first response..... India was famous for sending their Ross MkIII's back in heavy grease....can you still smell the delicate aroma of curry?
Happy Thanksgiving from the sunny shores of Florida! All you other Canadians- keep working, and keep carwax on your snow-shovels. Rossguy
 
Kindof a tough call - never heard of a ross in the grease. If it's as you suggest, it would be worth having it appraised by someone who knows. There's got to be some part of the gun showing so that you know what it is, so that's probably a good place to start. Any pics of the gun as it is now for reference?
 
Rossguy said:
Tiriaq- thx for first response..... India was famous for sending their Ross MkIII's back in heavy grease....can you still smell the delicate aroma of curry?
Happy Thanksgiving from the sunny shores of Florida! All you other Canadians- keep working, and keep carwax on your snow-shovels. Rossguy
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Had the Massey 65 out this morning with the snow thrower. Thought last year's winter started early with lots of snow. Sometimes I think I should become an expat. and live in a warmer clime.

Any Ross that is new in the grease is going to have significant value. Used intact ones don't exactly grow on trees, and values have been climbing. A detailed description, with photos, would really help.
 
Thanks for the responses . A little more to the story . This rifle is owned by a guy I know . He is retiring soon . This rifle belonged to his father Both he and his father were in the Canadian army . Yrs ago before he left the army he said he took the gun to to the armorer where he was based & said they field stripped , cleaned & greased rifle for storage I have not seen the rifle yet . He is going to bring it out to show me and possibly willing to sell . I asked if it had been sporterized & he said no it is as issued . I know condition is everything .So we will see .
 
Grandpops rifle?

bdft said:
The odds of him having a rifle that was issued to his father are pretty slim. The Canadian army took a dim view of anyone absconding with government property.
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Agree with you. I believe the Boer War was the last conflict where returning soldiers were able to purchase their kit including weapons. In WWI, "private purchase" weapons were the property of the soldiers, often Colt 1911's.
DND didn't start selling off weapons to the public until the 1950's as I understand it. Stories of "Gramps ol' .303 that he carried in the war" are more likely family legend. Now "vet bringbacks" are a different story and they would be Mausers, Arisaka's etc. ,depending on what side you were on I guess.
Geoff
 
I have no doubt some Vets issued .303s came back with them...especially Ross Rifles as the troops where throwing them as far away as they could so they could get issued Enfields. :D
 
Stop and think about the conditions in 1915 and then in 1916 when Rosses were formally withdrawn from front line service. How many troops were rotated back from Flanders? How many would have had the opportunity to bring a souvenir rifle home in '15 or '16? Let alone haul the thing around until '18 or '19? The rifles that were withdrawn from service were reissued for second line use, or kept in stores. Keep in mind that in 1939 Canada held more Ross rifles in stores than Lee Enfields.
There was a lot of souvenir material returned with units rotated home after WW1. There could have been Rosses with these units. But that is not the same thing as a personal souvenir.
 
tiriaq said:
Stop and think about the conditions in 1915 and then in 1916 when Rosses were formally withdrawn from front line service. How many troops were rotated back from Flanders? How many would have had the opportunity to bring a souvenir rifle home in '15 or '16? Let alone haul the thing around until '18 or '19? The rifles that were withdrawn from service were reissued for second line use, or kept in stores. Keep in mind that in 1939 Canada held more Ross rifles in stores than Lee Enfields.
There was a lot of souvenir material returned with units rotated home after WW1. There could have been Rosses with these units. But that is not the same thing as a personal souvenir.
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Very good points Tiriaq...kind of hard to hide a 5 foot long rifle in your duffel bag, expecially when they're searching for them...I had a P14 with a duffel cut forend.

Heh...maybe that's why all the Rosses have cut down forends...:runaway:
 
Can I buy just the story? Seriously; now we're not talking about a "new" Ross at all. FWIW, one of my Military MkII**'s IS still new/unfired, and still in the pine shipping crate from the Ross Factory sent to a gentleman in Annapolis Royal...(photo on file here in the archives) and it wasn't gobbed in grease. I doubt were much that it was brought back either, having heard so many horror stories back in the good ol' days in Ontario from WWI/WWII vets about "kit inspections" on the ship's deck looking for weapons, and those that were surrendered went overboard a day or so east of Halifax...We still expect to see a photo of what it is eventually found to be, though.One more Ross found is good for all of us, even if it's still in Canada.
 
Abject apologies...."were" in line four is really "very".
More trivia: another of my early 1906 MkII's is accompanied by a note from the CO of an Ontario Militia Batt'n,advising that "Ross Serial XX/1906" is on loan, and must be returned upon request.....I've not been asked for it back, so I guess it's mine now.
 
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Rossguy said:
Abject apologies...."were" in line four is really "very".
More trivia: another of my early 1906 MkII's is accompanied by a note from the CO of an Ontario Militia Batt'n,advising that "Ross Serial XX/1906" is on loan, and must be returned upon request.....I've not been asked for it back, so I guess it's mine now.
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I think you're safe Rossguy.
Cheers
Geoff
 
Rossguy said:
Tiriaq- thx for first response..... India was famous for sending their Ross MkIII's back in heavy grease....can you still smell the delicate aroma of curry?
Happy Thanksgiving from the sunny shores of Florida! All you other Canadians- keep working, and keep carwax on your snow-shovels. Rossguy
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Sorry to disappoint you Rossguy but the part of Canada I'm in "snow" is a rare commodity. Was just out in a t-shirt this past weekend cutting the lawn, though.... :eek:

;) :D
 
longbranch* said:
Agree with you. I believe the Boer War was the last conflict where returning soldiers were able to purchase their kit including weapons. In WWI, "private purchase" weapons were the property of the soldiers, often Colt 1911's.
DND didn't start selling off weapons to the public until the 1950's as I understand it. Stories of "Gramps ol' .303 that he carried in the war" are more likely family legend. Now "vet bringbacks" are a different story and they would be Mausers, Arisaka's etc. ,depending on what side you were on I guess.
Geoff
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Not entirely true. The Pacific Coast Milita Rangers were allowed to buy their carbines from the gov't for I believe $10, once the PCMR was disbanded in 1945. If you see a C broad arrow marked .30-30 lever action Winchester or Marlin, it was probably a PCMR rifle.
 
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