Rossi 16" Stainless in 460 or 500S&W

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Clay I saw you guys brought some Rossi in in December. Do you sell many of their rifles? Their 16" stainless 454 Casull is quickly becoming one of my favorite little rifles. It's very handy and about 5 lbs or so (guessing, have to actually weigh it). Would Rossi entertain doing some of these in a 460 or a 500 S&W
 
I have the .454 model. Would prefer a 460 over a 500 for calibre versatility / better availability. Besides, the 460 has PLENTY of power.
 
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I think a substantial fraction of the 16" stainless Rossis in .454 tore themselves apart, I know the one my brother has did. It was fine with 250gr factory loads but once I put some heavy cast in it it didn't last 100 rounds before showing serious damage. The big .460 and .500 mags shoot heavy bullets and generate heavy recoil, I wouldn't want to be the one trying to make the flimsy M92 action stand up to them.
 
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I think a substantial fraction of the 16" stainless Rossis in .454 tore themselves apart, I know the one my brother has did. It was fine with 250gr factory loads but once I put some heavy cast in it it didn't last 100 rounds before showing serious damage. The big .460 and .500 mags shoot heavy bullets and generate heavy recoil, I wouldn't want to be the one trying to make the flimsy M92 action stand up to them.
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This is interesting lol. I have some loads I've been shooting with 300gr XTP mag and havent had any issues. Can't seem to find these issues on the Rossi forums either.

An article I found below (for whatever its worth). And should be noted that max loads on Hodgdon are only 54000 PSI.... more than 10,000 below SAAMI

From RealGuns:

The Model R92's ability to handle the 454 Casull's 65,000 PSI is widely debated, although I am not sure why. The beefiest revolvers chambered for the 454 Casull have a measured maximum cylinder wall thickness of 0.108". The Rossi's barrel shank chamber wall thickness is 0.160" and it is held in the rifle's receiver which adds another 0.160" in wall thickness for a total of 0.320" of heat treated steel around the 454 Casull cartridge. So much for hoop stress.

n regard to bolt thrust, the Model R92's square bolt side rails are held captive in slots cut into the gun's 0.250" thick steel receiver walls. As a result, the bolt and its breech face are located and supported longitudinally and vertically; always in alignment with the gun's bore centerline and always supported solidly when the breech is closed. The gun's lever toggles left and right steel locking bolts that key the rifle's bolt to its receiver when the breech is closed. Each bolt measures 2.180" high, 0.600" deep and 0.220" wide. That's about 0.959 square inches of front locking bolt contact surface, nearly four times that of a typical two lug bolt action rifle.

The point is that the Winchester 1892, which Rossi/Taurus has cloned, was Browning's version of the WSM rifle, as opposed to the Model 1886, which was Browning's rendition of the Ultra Mag rifle. So the design is clearly up to the task, which leaves the second half of the strength equation, materials selected and manufacturing process control. Rossi rifles are manufactured for Rossi in the Forjas Taurus S.A. ISO 9001 facility in São Leopoldo, Brazil, a company with 4,700 employees, net revenues of approximately $250 million and servicing 15% of what Taurus defines as a $2.6 Billion firearms market. This suggests that the company is large enough to invest in state of the art manufacturing capital equipment. A close inspection of the investment cast, MIM and machined parts of the R92 indicates the investment is being put to good use"
 
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Right. Well we can keep dreaming because that one will never happen! If it does, I will happily insert foot into mouth ;)
 
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