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With my mares leg 44 mag, I made a magnetic stock addition to it that attaches with cup magnets . Each magnet has a 65 pound pull and I used two of them.
I also had to add a steel but plate the whole thing took me about 2 hours that included carving the stock piece.
Its just a proto type but works great.
I intend to have the stock addition covered with deer hide or leather.
 
Just "pulled the trigger" on a .44mag 20" blued, best I could find :) I was able to source locally a Ranch Hand in 44mag, but would have ended up more expensive with the full stock addition (which does no seem to be easily available anyway).
 
Can-down said:
I'm surprised it was that bad for you? I can see some people not being able to handle "bear" type loads but for most healthy people with sane loads it's not that hard to achieve typical handgun accuracy.

What were you shooting exactly?
What was your technique?
And just how bad did you make out.......?

Maybe you should have started with a .22lr mare's leg before working up to .38 special.... :)

.38 special is easy to shoot and feels like a pop gun out of a mare's leg! .38 special used to be a standard Police cartridge.


Don't mean to pick on you, but you seem so adamant that they are useless..... it would be nice if you expanded on your beliefs a bit.
At the end of the day I can appreciate they are not for everyone but I'm always a bit surprised by the people who label things as useless for all, after they decide they have no use for something personally.
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Where was I shooting and what was my technique??????? I don't recall saying it was bad for me, seems to me that was your imagination.

It would be nice if you expanded your literary skills a bit instead of making stuff up and making a fool of yourself.
 
judge329 said:
With my mares leg 44 mag, I made a magnetic stock addition to it that attaches with cup magnets . Each magnet has a 65 pound pull and I used two of them.
I also had to add a steel but plate the whole thing took me about 2 hours that included carving the stock piece.
Its just a proto type but works great.
I intend to have the stock addition covered with deer hide or leather.
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Any chance you could post a pic of that stock?
 
Falconflyer said:
Where was I shooting and what was my technique??????? I don't recall saying it was bad for me, seems to me that was your imagination.

It would be nice if you expanded your literary skills a bit instead of making stuff up and making a fool of yourself.
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Take it easy cowboy, I asked what you were shooting not where..... as in was it a .357, .44 or .45?
Yes technique , as is in, how did you shoot it? Push-pull? I don't know as I wasn't there...... just trying to figure out your difficulty I guess.

Like I said I'm not trying to razz you or anything just curious as to what made it so difficult for you to shoot?

You didn't say it was bad for you, only that it proved difficult to shoot..... I guess I equate difficult to shoot with not good or in other words bad.


The Ranch Hand sounded like a good idea at the time but have proven themselves almost worthless beyond a few feet since they're so difficult to shoot.
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judge329 said:
With my mares leg 44 mag, I made a magnetic stock addition to it that attaches with cup magnets . Each magnet has a 65 pound pull and I used two of them.
I also had to add a steel but plate the whole thing took me about 2 hours that included carving the stock piece.
Its just a proto type but works great.
I intend to have the stock addition covered with deer hide or leather.
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Wow.

The best innovation have ever read about for the mares leg.

As a bonus, you can also use if to find metal parts that you dropped in the leaf litter.
 
Its just a proto type right now. does not have look like much.
And I am not sure if I could post pic's , but will talk to my grand kids . I know they have the technology.
The cup magnets can be found in the Lee Valley catalog, every from there on is pretty simple.
 
Can-down said:
Take it easy cowboy, I asked what you were shooting not where..... as in was it a .357, .44 or .45?
Yes technique , as is in, how did you shoot it? Push-pull? I don't know as I wasn't there...... just trying to figure out your difficulty I guess.

Like I said I'm not trying to razz you or anything just curious as to what made it so difficult for you to shoot?

You didn't say it was bad for you, only that it proved difficult to shoot..... I guess I equate difficult to shoot with not good or in other words bad.
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NO, actually you were trying to razz me but your going to have to do better than that. I suspect that I was shooting 44 mags long before you were even conceived so don't say condescending things to me such as I should work my way up to a .38 special.
 
Falconflyer said:
The Ranch Hand sounded like a good idea at the time but have proven themselves almost worthless beyond a few feet since they're so difficult to shoot.
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I can make a kill shot at 50 yards with my 44 mag, but aiming is slower than with my carbine, and you can't shoot fast with any degree of accuracy. But they are a crapload of fun - so is the carbine.
 
People that can shoot handguns will have no real trouble with the ranch hands but most of the people I know who ran out and purchased them were not handgun shooters and didn't even have a restricted licence. People that don't shoot handguns watch movies and see guys making great shots with one hand, even holding the gun sideways and think it's easy to do!
I've shot the ranch hands and although I don't own one, we have several of these guns in the family and they were purchased to carry as a legal sidearm when riding back in the cattle reserves. Most of these guys are not hand gunners and would really be better served by the same gun with a regular stock. Also, my Rossi rifle has proven itself to be mostly reliable but not totally reliable so for riding up in the hills, I personally would rather carry a large bore revolver than a ranch hand as it's much easier to get a two hand hold on and get a much faster follow up shot with. As a toy, the ranch hands are great fun but as a serious self defense gun they leave a lot to be desired.
 
Falconflyer said:
NO, actually you were trying to razz me but your going to have to do better than that. I suspect that I was shooting 44 mags long before you were even conceived so don't say condescending things to me such as I should work my way up to a .38 special.
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It's common sense to those like yourselves but I have no idea who you are or what you were shooting in the 70's.... me it was home made Sten's fashioned from broken hockey sticks..... :)
 
Falconflyer said:
People that can shoot handguns will have no real trouble with the ranch hands but most of the people I know who ran out and purchased them were not handgun shooters and didn't even have a restricted licence. People that don't shoot handguns watch movies and see guys making great shots with one hand, even holding the gun sideways and think it's easy to do!
I've shot the ranch hands and although I don't own one, we have several of these guns in the family and they were purchased to carry as a legal sidearm when riding back in the cattle reserves. Most of these guys are not hand gunners and would really be better served by the same gun with a regular stock. Also, my Rossi rifle has proven itself to be mostly reliable but not totally reliable so for riding up in the hills, I personally would rather carry a large bore revolver than a ranch hand as it's much easier to get a two hand hold on and get a much faster follow up shot with. As a toy, the ranch hands are great fun but as a serious self defense gun they leave a lot to be desired.
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Well that fills in a few blanks, thanks!
I agree a nice revolver would be better in many ways but some one decided that was not acceptable in their view of a "modern society".
I also agree that for the most part even a slight extension of the stock ( doesn't need to be full length) to allow shouldering is a good improvement.

I just don't agree with your initial assessment that the ranchand's "have proven themselves almost worthless beyond a few feet since they're so difficult to shoot. "

Two out of three ain't bad.

:)
 
Papaclaude said:
I can make a kill shot at 50 yards with my 44 mag, but aiming is slower than with my carbine, and you can't shoot fast with any degree of accuracy. But they are a crapload of fun - so is the carbine.
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The only thing I've killed with mine are cans and gongs.... :) I bought a Pearson's rail but haven't tried it out yet. With a red dot mounted on a functioning and reliable .357, it makes a very handy self defense package. The rail would even allow a flashlight or laser for night time.

I agree again with FF that Rossi has quality control issues and they are not all good to go out of the box! But there are smiths who like to work on these actions due to cowboy shooting sports so most issues are solvable and at the end of the day a well tuned 1892 is pretty reliable.
 
Falconflyer said:
NO, actually you were trying to razz me but your going to have to do better than that. I suspect that I was shooting 44 mags long before you were even conceived so don't say condescending things to me such as I should work my way up to a .38 special.
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Falconflyer said:
Where was I shooting and what was my technique??????? I don't recall saying it was bad for me, seems to me that was your imagination.

It would be nice if you expanded your literary skills a bit instead of making stuff up and making a fool of yourself.
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No need to be a richard about it
 
Can-down said:
The only thing I've killed with mine are cans and gongs.... :) I bought a Pearson's rail but haven't tried it out yet. With a red dot mounted on a functioning and reliable .357, it makes a very handy self defense package. The rail would even allow a flashlight or laser for night time.

I agree again with FF that Rossi has quality control issues and they are not all good to go out of the box! But there are smiths who like to work on these actions due to cowboy shooting sports so most issues are solvable and at the end of the day a well tuned 1892 is pretty reliable.
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I've never killed anything with mine, either, and it's highly unlikely that I ever will. I have tons of other guns I'd rather use for hunting. As far as a defense weapon, I don't have any and don't want any. My ranch hand is a fun toy. I may, at some point, get into CAS, and might use it then, but they're a great little gun.
 
I was under the impression that due to changing locations production was halted on a lot of guns but I didn't hear about it being stopped altogether. That is bad news, I was waiting to get my hands on a stainless .454...
 
Papaclaude said:
I've never killed anything with mine, either, and it's highly unlikely that I ever will. I have tons of other guns I'd rather use for hunting. As far as a defense weapon, I don't have any and don't want any. My ranch hand is a fun toy. I may, at some point, get into CAS, and might use it then, but they're a great little gun.
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They say the best defensive weapon is a good brain and a survival mindset.
 
Can-down said:
It's common sense to those like yourselves but I have no idea who you are or what you were shooting in the 70's.... me it was home made Sten's fashioned from broken hockey sticks..... :)
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And I have no idea who you are either but for the record, in the mid 70's I spent a lot of time riding in the grazing reserves with a 44 mag M-29 in my saddle bag, and I shot it almost daily. I also shot a 38 special quite a bit in those days so I was aware that it was a police round!
Now that we know each other a bit better, maybe we can drop the rude and condescending remarks.
 
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