Rough Mosin - My New Toy from P & S

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I got this little number yesterday. She's a beauty in my opinion. The roughness of 1942 Mosin Nagants is quite amazing. The wood is sloppily coated in shellac, the wood on either side of the barrel is uneven (thicker on the right side), and the receiver looks like it was carved out of a piece of rock.

It is all-matching but the floorplate is force-match punched. I don't know if it was refurbed. What does the 12 in the triangle mean??

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Just a standard inspector's mark, nothing special. Stock is WW2 issue, not Post-War with pressed steel escutcheons. Romanian mark is C in a triangle. I also like the chewed by a Beaver machining on the 1942/43 dated rifles, you really get a feeling how desparate the Russians were at that point in the War.
 
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Woohoo - M38! Great carbines. Much like the pictures of the M34's rolling through the streets still in white primer or bare metal with makers markings all over them. It's impressive, but scary at the same time.
 
And with a correct stock, not an M-44's with the cut-out for the bayonet.
You did good on that one; take care of it, it's worth more than it looks.
And I would not be surprised if it shot a lot better than its looks make you believe, too!
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Nice 42 M38 with wartime stock. It is a refurb (they all are). The rough machining is because the receiver was drawn through broaching operations instead of conventional machining. This saves LOTS of time in manufacture but leaves a really rough outer finish.
 
Nice 42 M38 with wartime stock. It is a refurb (they all are). The rough machining is because the receiver was drawn through broaching operations instead of conventional machining. This saves LOTS of time in manufacture but leaves a really rough outer finish.

Good to know. I always wondered why other receivers had smooth finishes if they were merely more highly polished versions of the rough initial forgings. If they had to start out with such a rough receiver polishing would seem highly time consuming.

You're certainly right about the refurb. I do like the fact that the M38 has numbers re-stamped instead of electro-pencilled. I can still see the remnants of another serial number on the bolt body although it was very carefully machined off before being re-stamped. The barrel has the original serial number.

The finish on the wood looks fairly worn and old. Shellac has that way of simply disappearing over time and is much more prevalent on the handguards than the buttstock.

Do you know what process produced that "threaded" appearance down the entirety of many mosin nagant barrels? Is this merely a process of lathing that has not completed a polishing stage?
 
It was too new!

It arrived today :) you are right about it being new. Unissued and a bore still full of cosmoline. I did a little reasearch and discovered that this carbine is a rare one, it is a C prefix first year of manufacture. I can't understand why it was on the EE for so long, I'm a happy boy. Thanks.

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Do you know what process produced that "threaded" appearance down the entirety of many mosin nagant barrels? Is this merely a process of lathing that has not completed a polishing stage?

Usually a result of barrel turning too slow on the lathe coupled with a dull tool.
 
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